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User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#1 Posted : 07 November 2011 20:10:06(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn
http://www.dailymail.co....adder-demonstration.html Wonderful, but only if you can spin this out as experiental learning. In every other respect, it's simply a complete farce.
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Canopener  
#2 Posted : 07 November 2011 20:17:02(UTC)
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Canopener
A classic! Mind you Ian, I do sometimes hope that the DM aren't taking too much of an interest in these forums at times!
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RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 07 November 2011 21:02:37(UTC)
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RayRapp
Marvelous. I did the same training on a ladder only a few weeks ago. However, the trainer was only one to 'fall off the ladder' and at a lower height. Nothing untoward happened. I'm glad I did not see the video first!
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Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 07 November 2011 21:08:35(UTC)
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DM seem to think you need a hard hat to climb a ladder.......
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RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 07 November 2011 21:53:46(UTC)
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RayRapp
Ron, there is good reason to wear a hard hat...with a chin strap if you are WAH and no peak. If one slips off a ladder and is hooked on with a carabiner you could hit your head against a wall, or worse, fall off the ladder and land on your head! Hard hats are not just for things dropping from height.
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John J  
#6 Posted : 07 November 2011 22:34:51(UTC)
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John J
Ray, the only hard hats tested against the scenario you describe are climbing helmets. Standard hard hats have limited protection against lateral impact as would typically be experienced in a fall.
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RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 08 November 2011 00:05:02(UTC)
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RayRapp
John, there are a wide variety of hard hats that are now available, including climbing helmets, if they are deemed the most suitable for job then there is no good reason not to wear them. It is not a one size fits all industry any more. :) http://www.davronline.co...talogue/safety-hard-hats
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ptaylor14  
#8 Posted : 08 November 2011 08:48:27(UTC)
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ptaylor14
Ian.Blenkharn wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058585/Health-safety-instructor-suspended-falls-ladder-demonstration.html Wonderful, but only if you can spin this out as experiental learning. In every other respect, it's simply a complete farce.
Its not true its in the mail!!!
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redken  
#9 Posted : 08 November 2011 08:49:05(UTC)
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redken
Be careful, this could be a fake! As one of the DM poster says he did not have a hard hat when he was on the ladder!
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mylesfrancis  
#10 Posted : 08 November 2011 09:04:31(UTC)
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redken wrote:
Be careful, this could be a fake! As one of the DM poster says he did not have a hard hat when he was on the ladder!
If you watch the actual video - which is embedded at the end of the article, the chap on the ladder is clearly passed a hard hat and puts it on.
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cbrpete  
#11 Posted : 08 November 2011 11:48:09(UTC)
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cbrpete
cant believe this made the bbc news this morning
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Ajc100  
#12 Posted : 08 November 2011 13:44:02(UTC)
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Ajc100
Sadly it also made page 3 of the Metro...
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martin1  
#13 Posted : 08 November 2011 13:50:06(UTC)
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martin1
Being discussed on Jeremy Vine show!!!!
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DP  
#14 Posted : 08 November 2011 13:56:28(UTC)
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DP
I believe he's been suspended!!!! (sorry)
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Andrew W Walker  
#15 Posted : 08 November 2011 13:58:27(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker
Martin1 wrote:
Being discussed on Jeremy Vine show!!!!
You are watching the Jeremy Vine show????!!!!
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John J  
#16 Posted : 08 November 2011 14:10:21(UTC)
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Motorhead wrote:
Martin1 wrote:
Being discussed on Jeremy Vine show!!!!
You are watching the Jeremy Vine show????!!!!
I wouldn't think it would make very good viewing as he's on the radio :) Had a guyspeaking about ladder safety. Came across as very practical despite Jeremy trying to lead him into the obvious 'elf and safety stuff'. was followed by a couple of callers expressing the dangers of ladder use. Seemed to be going ok when I stopped listening.
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Andrew W Walker  
#17 Posted : 08 November 2011 14:16:55(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker
Oh yeah, Doh! I was thinking of Kyle. Andy
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John J  
#18 Posted : 08 November 2011 19:19:10(UTC)
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Motorhead wrote:
Oh yeah, Doh! I was thinking of Kyle. Andy
No, the guy who fell off the ladder was working, no sign of a pit bull and there was nobody rowing about paternity...
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martynp1000  
#19 Posted : 09 November 2011 12:15:46(UTC)
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martynp1000
Motorhead wrote:
I was thinking of Kyle.
And now I cant get that outta my head .... oh that was Kylie
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Blue  
#20 Posted : 09 November 2011 12:22:31(UTC)
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Blue
I'd imagine the guy who posted the clip onto YouTube has had a severe talking to. It's not exactly something you'd like broadcast around the planet.
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SP900308  
#21 Posted : 09 November 2011 12:22:45(UTC)
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SP900308
Interesting to hear Jeremy Vine merrily using the phrase 'Health and Safety Expert' but, what was that label based on?
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SHE-Andy  
#22 Posted : 09 November 2011 13:11:14(UTC)
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SHE-Andy
It's genuine, i've a friend works for Gateshead council and actually witnessed it, (not the filmer). The guy is a know it all, or what we like to call 'character' and believed he didn't need training himself in order to train others... Clearly he required some training! One part the video doesn't show is that when he put the anchoring bolt in the wall, he stood back all self congratulatory and said 'there, that'll not budge!' He gave the strap a tug, the anchor bolt flew out and nearly took his eye out!
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User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#23 Posted : 09 November 2011 20:42:48(UTC)
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SHE-Andy wrote:
It's genuine, i've a friend works for Gateshead council and actually witnessed it, (not the filmer). The guy is a know it all, or what we like to call 'character' and believed he didn't need training himself in order to train others... Clearly he required some training!
An IOSH member? On the Consultants register?
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walker  
#24 Posted : 10 November 2011 11:53:47(UTC)
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walker
Keith Lard ?
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