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CAN ANYONE GIVE GUIDANCE TO ME ON BEST PRACTICE REGARDING TYRES ON THE ABOVE VEHICLES, I HAVE A CONTRACTOR WHO INSISTS HE CAN RUN HIS TYRES BALD ON A SITE WHICH IS A LARGE WIND FARM CONSTRUCTION IN THE UK THE ROAD STANDARD RANGES FROM HEAVY MUD TO FOREST TRACKS AND EARTH MOVED BY HIS MACHINESWE ALSO HAVEVERY STEEP HILLS I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THERE IS NO LEGAL MINIMUM TREAD REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE OF TRACTOR AND HE INSIST ON RUNNING THEM BALD AND TO VIRTUAL DESTRUCTION IS THERE ANY WAY TO STOP THIS.
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Could you look at the manufacturer's instructions?, There is possibly guidance on tyres there.
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The machine is being used o private land so the law (Road Traffic that is ) does not appply but, you must ensure the vehicle is sutiable for use in the conditions that exist. If the site is muddy and slippery you would expect decent tyres to cope with the conditions. If he stil fails to apply the correct equioment simply don't renew his contract, make this known to him and I think he will soon toe the line.
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Wouldnt this be a PUWER item
Are the tyres
- suitable for use, and for the purpose and conditions in which it is used; - maintained in a safe condition for use so that people’s health and safety is not at risk; and
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It could be that the contractor is putting costs before safety as these tyres aren't cheap to replace. If there is evidence of vehicles losing traction and/or control due to lack of tread then that is an unsafe condition and should be addressed as such.
Remember there is a duty of care to non-employees as well as employees and anything that presents a hazard on the site should be managed - I'd suggest you check the contract and see if that offers an angle to get the contractor to toe the line. I'm presuming that banning the contractor would cause issue for yourself and it may be that the contractor knows this and is playing the system, but if there is room in the contract to hit the contractor's pocket they may see your point of view.
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Does a tread make a difference in muddy conditions?
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My experience with such tyres is that the manufacturers have a ‘wear mark’ when the tyre should be considered unsuitable for use. I know that these types of tyres are not cheap but there are limits and would consult with the supplier / manufacturer of the tyres to find the permitted wear level.
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Evening, As other posters have suggested, check the contract, I would also check (if you can) what your contractor's tender document said in relationship to maintenance and standard of equipment. They may have been required to provide a H&S Policy (not just the statement) which if they have large plant should contain reference to maintenance and possibly tyre wear. Other sources you may wish to try are their Risk Assessments (is a control measure to replace tyres after x number of hours? or regular checks to be carried out on tyres? if the latter then who signs that they are safe). Safe Systems of Work/Method Statements/Safe Codes of Practice may also provide you with guidance to what they are supposed to be doing.
In my last company I had a problem with bald tyres on heavy duty fork lifts, tugmaster units and trailers, I wrote a memo to the General & Engineering Managers saying that in my opinion the company was not complying to PUWER but more pertinently the Dock regulations (appropriate parts of both forming part of the appendix). I then followed this memo up with weekly checks on the vehicles and a status report. This led to very heated exchanges in safety meetings and management meetings but in the end the executive made money available to change tyres regularly.
So I would make my concerns known to my line manager and the contractor in writing asking the latter for their written assurance that these tyres were safe in all conditions they were likely to encounter but before I wrote my memo I would also contact the tyre manufacturer, possibly send some photos showing the conditions remembering the tyre manufacturer has a vested interest in selling more tyres. I would have a quiet word with some of the vehicle drivers asking if they had had any problems e.g. braking, sliding.
Remember I do not know your circumstances and can only say what I think I would do from my own experience. Also remember once you have pointed out your concerns you have to then keep chasing up as if something does happen you will be required to demonstrate that you continued to express your fears but were ignored.
Hope some of this proves useful.
Take Care
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Sitesafe the contractor involved will have more technical and operational knowledge of the earthmovers and its tyres than most of us here. If he wants to maintain good productivity levels then the tyres will be key to achieving that so I feel sure that the contractor wants an efficient operation. Surely track conditions will have influence on the suitability of the tyres not just from a safety point of view but from an operational point of view.
I would discuss this with the drivers, vehicle fitters and the contract manager a) to determine if the tyres were suitable for the task or not and b) to enhance my knowledge.
Don't lose credibility by getting into an argument on a technical issue unless you are sure that you can win. Tread carefully. Steve
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