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#1 Posted : 30 March 2004 15:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Lawton Hello all, I'm quite new to my position in Health and Safety, only 3 months, and only been with my company 6 months. My role is Health & Safety and Quality Coordinator meaning I'm the competent person site and so the company put me through NEBOSH Cert, I'm sure I'll pass but won't know for sure till early May. I'm currently on £17k and this seems a bit low, even for a part-timer. Now the question - As the NEBOSH results come out in May I'll be asking for a payrise soon after, what do you think is reasonable for someone of my experience and qualifications? I'm quietly hoping for a distinction or at least a merit for the NEBOSH, if I acheive one of these, how much extra do you think I could ask for? All feedback apprectiated! Craig
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#2 Posted : 30 March 2004 15:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Todd Craig, You are lucky! I had to take a major drop and start on £16k to get into the world of safety full time (rather than being a project manager but company health and safety officer when it suited them). It was a real struggle for me as I had been used earning a lot more and it was my lowest salary since leaving uni. I also had to travel over an hour to work and was spending £200 per month on fuel - not to mention the fact that my job seemed to be my whole life because I left the house before 8 and didn't get home until after 6.30. I got paid mileage for site visits, but if I'd of stayed in the job a year I would have run up 37,000 miles on my car. Thankfully the position with Tyco came up and I am now on a good salary again, in a job 3.5 miles from the house! I had already got my NEBOSH Certificate and had just started my NEBOSH Diploma Part 1 when I moved to the low paying job. Tyco took me on before I had finished the Diploma Part 1, which I have now got, and I am now doing Part 2. As per other threads, some companies will ask for MIOSH, RSP but offer a really low salary; others will ask for just a NEBOSH Cert and offer a high salary. Karen
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#3 Posted : 30 March 2004 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Marcus Williams £17k isn't that low considering you haven't any formal Health & Safety qualifications yet. I have seen other Health & Safety vacancies for the same money where thay are asking for the Diploma as a minimum qualification. You should count yourself lucky that you have been given the job before you have passed your exam. Not many employers would do that. So, I wouldn't get too greedy.
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#4 Posted : 30 March 2004 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Stone I started off on £12000 when I had my Cert and had to work my time, managed to get a better position now I have Dip 1 with better money. Ian
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#5 Posted : 30 March 2004 16:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Langston £17,000 with the certificate is a good reward! Correct me if I am wrong but the certificate is aimed at people with an INTEREST in health and safety and not THE competent person. It is normal for people with the certificate to work as a trainee or assistant to the competent person. Personnally I had to take a pay cut to enter the health and safety field (£14,000) and I had already got a distinction in the Cert. 4 years on I have the experience and Dip2 and am on pay that i feel my qualifications and experience are owed (£26,000).
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#6 Posted : 30 March 2004 17:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Lawton OK 4-0 against a payrise, Maybe next year! Craig
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#7 Posted : 30 March 2004 17:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch Craig 5-0. Not sure anyone else noticed that you are part time. Are you supposed to be the competent person for a single site, with the potential that a suitably qualified person is available at Group level, or for CRC Group at all its locations including customer locations, travel between etc? If the latter, and taking into account the type of processes your company does, I smell a potential Sainsbury look alike prosecution. Does the company have the competence to assess the risks of eg electro mechanical repair and testing, warehouse operations etc etc? Regards, Peter
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#8 Posted : 30 March 2004 19:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Costelloe Steve, You forgot to mention that 17K and he hasn't got the Certificate yet !!
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#9 Posted : 31 March 2004 07:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hilary Charlton Craig At £17k you are doing well. You don't yet have the certificate and you don't have the necessary experience so actually I would say that you were on a good wedge. When I passed my certificate my salary went up to £16.4k! Hilary
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#10 Posted : 31 March 2004 09:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert Paterson Hi Craig After all the negative points one positive thing is that your are being sponsored through your Safety Education by your Enployer and from their eyes thats a major investment. Who knows they might reward you for acheiving the NEBOSH and then carry on sponsoring you for further qualifications. That in itself is a saving for you because paying for certificates and diplomas is quite expensive at the moment I had to self fund the qualifications I acheived through 3 years of study, It is a good thing that you are searching for more reward but sorry to say it is not always possible to get the reward we think we are entitled to (sorry another negative point). Good Luck Regards Robert Paterson
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#11 Posted : 31 March 2004 10:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Craig If as I suspect your salary is for 18.75 hours a week ie half time then I wonder where you think you can better this with your level of qualification! unless of course this is the whole time figure and you are pro rata. To be honest there are many salary anomolies in our profession and I have seen some appalling salary figures recently for high responsibility roles, placed on certificate holders with salaries comfortably below £18k. Considering the national average pay is around £24k it does make you wonder where some employers are going
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