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#1 Posted : 25 May 2004 12:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Plimmer Hi everyone, I have a question with regards this. Are there any defintive guidelines for the required qualifications for Health and Safety personnel. I'm thinking in the context of the positions stated below. Safety Committee member. Employee Health and Safety Representative Health and Safety Manager. The regs talk about being competent. For instance in Successful health and safety management - HSG65, ut talks about advisers need to be propperly trained and suitably qualified, giving the Health and Safety National Ocupational standards from ENTO http://www.ento.co.uk/standards/health_index.htm (as an example). If you go to the European Agency for Safety at Work websites http://uk.osha.eu.int/training/legal.stm Just gives an outline. Does anybody know of any regs. Please help if you
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#2 Posted : 25 May 2004 12:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hilary Charlton I found a publication last year by the HSE entitled "Benchmarking the Competent Person in Manufacturing and Engineering Sectors". This outlines what is required for this particular environment, there may be others out there if you have a look. Hilary
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#3 Posted : 25 May 2004 13:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By james mackie An employer must ensure that anyone they employ is competent to carry out the duties for which they are being employed. The level of knowledge, experinence and training they require will depend on the position offered. Therefore, with regard to health & safety, some employers may ask for certificate level with XXX amount of years experience for a junior position or low risk area. However, another employer may advertise for a similar post and require diploma level professional with more experience. It is purely their interpretation as to what they judge to be their level of competence required to undertake the post on offer. Hope this sheds some light for you.
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#4 Posted : 25 May 2004 14:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Plimmer Thanks for your answers so far. Cheers. Ade Plimmer
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#5 Posted : 27 May 2004 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By S.Alder as far as i am aware there are no regs stipulating competence requirements. However for a safety committee member you should at least ensure that they have received training in risk assessment,accident investigation and the role that the safety committee is expected to play within the company. Trade union appointed health and safety reps are usually trained on a 10 day safety course that is similar to the NEBOSH general certificate but without the need to complete a formal examination at the end of the course. Nebosh certificate on it own is suitable for SME's with low risk activities or for assissting a more qualified safety practioner and Diploma level and beyond is generally regarded as suitable for larger companies or higher risk activities but usually a specialist qualification is also required.
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#6 Posted : 02 June 2004 11:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gavin adrian Be realistic - the qualification required is the one that recruiters will pay you for. Decide at what level you wish to operate, eg adviser, manager, consultant, etc and then review the relevant adverts. On that basis you will possibly end up with the level of competency required. In this day and age, the more qualifications the better, but this is balanced with a need to gain relevant experience. Also remember that as you will have to complete them you should consider the process, eg continual assessment, exams...
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#7 Posted : 03 June 2004 09:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Delwynne Although it doesn't give the definitive answer you're looking for HSG197 - developing and maintaining staff competence is an interesting read if you are trying to get to grips with 'competence' for the first time. Although it has been developed primarily for the rail industry the systems and ideas could be easily transferred to other areas
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#8 Posted : 03 June 2004 10:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Patrick Teyhan I have seen ads for competence referred to range from Two years minimum experience (of the working environment / process) with an academic Health Safety and Welfare qualification ranging from Gen Cert to FIOSH all depending on the level of Risk. As for the Trade Union Representative comment Traditionally it was the most senior representatives job to take on the position of H&S Rep, this due in part to negotiating with management (to whom H&S was almost as alien) in relation to H&S requirements which would require investment of resource. I am sure that the Consultation with Employees regulations state that any appointed must be competent but failing that it should be an organisational issue ie the employer sets the standard and improves upon it through adequate information supervision and training even for the Health and Safety Adviser Manager. This could be easily achieved as it is in my part of the Civil Service through the issue of a Supplemental policy statement. These have as much weight as an ACOP but it is a start. Hope this is of help. Regards Patrick
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#9 Posted : 04 June 2004 23:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richy In plain English competency means qualifications, skill and experience. Qualifications are easy I was recently told that you can buy a degree, skills can be derived from all kinds of employment situation and experience well experience is difficult. Organisations prefer competent persons because experience costs them time and time is money. Therefore experience is the stumbling block. With regard to your original question there are vast professional differences between committee members, safety reps and safety managers. Committee members have an interest in safety usually related to shares or morality. Representatives have a union interest and managers are somewhere in the middle trying to create a balance and avoid the flak. With regard to qualifications go for a diploma and make sure you get some experience. Voluntary experience is great it is amazing what two weeks with a professional can teach you? I would recommend Nottingham Trent Uni but then I am biased. Hope this helps Kind Regards
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