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#1 Posted : 18 April 2001 13:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryn Maidment
Can somebody shed some light please?

An employee has only just told me that they are self funding a Diploma in H & S Mgt that is offered by the above organisation.

After 5 modules and a 2.5 hour exam they have been told that they will get membership of IOSH and 'get on the register'. Additionally they can 'be qualified to go for, and do, the £40,000 safety jobs'.

I think they've been misled along a very lengthy (and costly) garden path.

Anyone come across this organisation / qualification? or know what the standing is of this Diploma? I suspect that it is OK as a very basic starter qual but it seems questionable as a longer term help to a budding career.

Thanks

Bryn
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#2 Posted : 18 April 2001 13:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Minty
Their website is on http://www.rsph.org/
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#3 Posted : 18 April 2001 13:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Preston
The good old RSH has been around for quite a while - invaluable for basic training for people like pest control operatives that nobody else seems to want to train

Patron is HM Queen - you'll find details of the course here…

http://www.rsph.org/qual...tions/HlthSafe/diphs.htm

I'm sure the Society - which approves centres offering this training - would wish to know about exaggerated claims on behalf of their approved courses
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#4 Posted : 18 April 2001 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith
It is interesting to note, that in their syllabus for this diploma, under Legislation and enforcement

The candidate should be able to:-
2.4 Briefly outline the main provisions laid down in:-
Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1992
Reporting of Injuries, Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences Regulations 1985 [RIDDOR];
Control of Substances Hazardous to Health Regulations 1994;
Dangerous Machines (Training of Young Persons) Order 1954;
Provision and Use of Work Equipment Regulations 1992;
Safety Signs Regulations 1980;
Office, Shops and Railway Premises (Hoists and Lifts) Regulations 1968;
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#5 Posted : 19 April 2001 09:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryn Maidment
I agree Arran. I had a look at the syllabus yesterday and it does seem to include some odd items and to be out of synch with current trends.

Oh well I s'pose I'll have to stick my staff counselling hat on and break some bad news!!

I will also contact them today about their agents exaggerated claims.
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#6 Posted : 19 April 2001 09:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Moody
Bryn

Material from the Royal Society for the Promotion of Health states that the "General Certificate in Health and Safety" is 9 Guided Learning Hours, and the "Diploma in Health and Safety Management" is 36 Guided Learning Hours. This makes the RSPH qualifications roughly equivalent to IOSH "Working Safely" and "Managing Safely" and nothing like the NEBOSH General Certificate and Diploma 1 and 2.

RSPH material also states that the Diploma is "A qualification for the person requiring evidence of a more detailed knowledge of health and safety (e.g. team leaders and supervisors) but not for the health and safety specialist".

You are right in thinking that the RSPH Diploma is a basic qualification. If delegates have actually been told they can "be qualified to go for, and do, the £40,000 safety jobs" they should demand their money back ! The good news though is that the RSPH Diploma is unlikely to cost delegates anything like as much time, money or effort as it would be to study the NEBOSH General Certificate.

"What's in a name ? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". That which we call a Diploma - depends on the syllabus, but could well impress some.
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#7 Posted : 19 April 2001 11:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
The RSPH Diploma Qualification is not an IOSH accredited qualification. We have never been asked to look at the qualification for IOSH membership purposes although I have seen the syllabus. It does look of a similar level to Managing Safely which is a safety awareness course, however our syllabus and course content are under constant review to make sure they reflect current good practice!
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#8 Posted : 19 April 2001 12:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryn Maidment
Thanks. Your responses and a look at their website have confirmed my suspicions.

Can see why the person had enthusiastically parted with their dosh though - 9 hrs worth of easy-peasy lessons and a 2.5 hour exam = '£40k job' An attractive alternative to NHS Nursing for sure!!
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