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Posted By Phil D
Being an ex salesman who could sell snow to the Eskimos, I am looking at joining the IIRSM, but will it really be beneficial. Are there any members who could give me an idea.
Thanks in advance
Phil
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Posted By ITK
I was a full member of IIRSM until this year, however now paying £102 to IOSH and £68 to IIRSM was no longer financially viable or indeed beneficial for me.
Nearly all job advertisements ask for some level of membership of IOSH, I cannot recall an advertisemnet asking for membership of IIRSM.
Yes you get to use more letters after your name, in my case MIIRSM, but taking this and the monthly magazine into account I decided to remain CMIOSH and just pay one set of fees.
ITK
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Posted By Phil D
Thanks ITK, I met the IIRSM team at the expo, and couldn't really see the benefits there either, but with so many members, there must be some worthwhile reason to join them as well as IOSH. No? (I'm not interested in the letters by the way) Any other members able to shed some light on this please?
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Posted By ITK
Phil,
I understand a lot of former TechSP's felt disenchanted with IOSH when the new charter was adopted and moved to IIRSM where they could get MIIRSM.
Also I think IIRSM have a relationship with the British Safety Council and a lot of the BSC Diplomates join IIRSM as a full member.
I am no way decrying the work of the IIRSM, its beneficial to everyone to have an alternative to IOSH, but I am merely saying I get what I need from IOSH and save £68 a year by not renewing IIRSM.
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Posted By Phil D
Thank ITK that makes perfect sense, I'll hold the form back for now. I appreciate your input.
Regards,
Phil
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Posted By Martin Keeler
IIRSM is a great institute and not full of snobs like other institutes i could mention.
Join and enjoy the benefits.
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Posted By peter gotch
Hi Martin,
I am a member of both, but do not think I get any significant benefits from IIRSM.
Compare the news centres of IOSH and IIRSM - latter has 11 news items in 2006, none on technical issues.
and of course no equivalent to these chat forums, nor regular branch arrangements.
So what does it offer you??
Regards, Peter
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Posted By Ken Taylor
There has been considerable previous discussion on this subject - so have a look on the archive. There has been something of a difference in style between the two organisations in the past with IIRSM appearing more forthright in the expression of opinions on safety issues - which some have found to be complimentary in providing a more 'rounded' view. IIRSM have also been said to be more helpful in responding to specific requests for information from members. Both organisations provide journals. If it's a choice between the two, membership of IOSH should be more advantageous - but membership of both could be better (other than the extra cost).
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Posted By Brett Day
I'm inclined to agree with Ken and Martin's comments.
If nothing else it provides an alternative to IOSH, a little healthy competition is never a bad thing. I happen to feel that IIRSM is a lot more welcoming to those who are at a 'non corporate' membership level in IOSH terms.
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Posted By Phil D
Thank you guys, I didn't realise it was a matter of personal preferrence. OK, I'll look through the archives and read previous posts. Many thanks, I appreciate the help.
Kind regards,
Phil
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Posted By IT
I see we are back to debating benefits of other organisations as members yet again...
IIRSM Positive and encouraging to members at all levels provide a service and similar features like news articles ,my only criticism is that they are too practical, unheard of isn't it.
Strange when IOSH membership is discussed the thread is moved or closed ,yet IIRSM debates are free to wander on this forum.
IIRSM open, friendly , approachable , encouraging ,helpful and willing to to assist its members achieve advancement and are extremely open about membership numbers.
Join the organization that suits your needs not visa versa, yet again if the membership is with IIRSM recruiters will start asking for that membership instead of IOSH or other organisations ,they are as mercenary as anyone else.
Ask what benefits you get for your fee of any organisation and you get your answer not how much will it cost me.
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Posted By Phil D
Thanks IT I appreciate the post, but my original question was not a who is better, merely a "Is it worth me joining if i am a member of IOSH?" If they offer the same thing, then I won't bother, but as we all know, the more help, information and support in this game we get then the better we become at out our jobs. So I would join if the have their own unique strong points. Money and letters do not come into it, for me it is purely, will I gain something from the IIRSM that I couldn't from IOSH. A difficult one for me as I have only been with IOSH about 2 weeks and already I have found it a brilliant organisation to be a part of. (Group hug guys!)
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Posted By Paul Duell
I joined IIRSM just after I became a TechSP. Partly it was because I thought that for recruiters who don't know much about the grading system, MIIRSM looks like a higher grade membership than TechSP: From that point of view it was a cosmetic getting-through-the-first-rough-shortlisting-process thing.
That makes me sound a bit shallow, so I'll add that someone who's opinion I trust described IIRSM to me as a growing organisation who looked like they were the organisation of the future. Having read their website, it seemed to make sense to be a member early on - once IIRSM has ecome the next big thing and safety professionals are joining in their thousands, I'll have achieved the length of membership which is one of the requirements to upgrade to Fellowship.
By the way, I'm not really that shallow - but I'm conscious there are recruiters out there assembling shortlists whose understanding of the award process IS that shallow!
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Folks,
As an ex-member of IIRSM I have to say that I agree with those who have said that they are OK but didn't give me anything for my £68 that I couldn't get elsewhere. I do have to say that they seem to be trying to be more active in approaching people; when I posted similar sentiments on a previous thread I was approached by them and asked why I had left, not in an unpleasant way you understand, they really were keen to understand my reasons. But at the end of the day, its not worth my money, sadly.
Just to pick up on one point; they don't both provide journals; they both have magazines, IOSH is the one with a journal, 'Policy and Practice in H&S' which is well worth its cover price,
John
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Posted By Geoff Parkinson
I have found IIRSM's helpline etc to be very useful. Its always reassuring to have an extra pool of knowledge to dip in to.
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Posted By sagalout
Phil, they are two organisations with the same aims and objectives, just different history and ways of achieving.
As a friend of the late James Tye, the founding influence of the BSC and IIRSM, I know he would be tickled pink at the response of several on this thread about approachable, helpful and supportive. That was always his view about what "his" organisation should be, just make it possible for anyone with an interest to succeed in H&S.
I think that membership of both provides a good balance of professional support. We all know that H&S is often subject to diverse opinion and interpretation and £73 a year is only about 30p per working day.
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Posted By Phil D
Saga I must say I always read your posts with interest. Thank you. Like I said though it's not about the money, just the benefits. I think I've been persuaded so I'll join just to see for myself. Thanks for everyones posts, I appreciate all your valuable input.
Regards,
Phil
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