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#1 Posted : 21 April 2009 13:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
Hi All,

I am currently updating the format of our risk assessments but i want to keep them precise as well as simple for the guys on site to understand.

Does anyone have any examples that they could forward me? - I do not need any information in the assessment - its more for a layout point of view.

Thanks.
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#2 Posted : 21 April 2009 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adie
Try here:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/casestudies/index.htm

Plenty of examples and guidance too.
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#3 Posted : 21 April 2009 13:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
Thanks Adie, already looked at this but i do not find these formats particularly practical in the construction industry.
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#4 Posted : 21 April 2009 15:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By SBH
Have you tried using flowcharts USING RED AMBER AND GREEN


SB
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#5 Posted : 21 April 2009 15:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By MARK BARRETT
Post your email and I will forward you our template
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#6 Posted : 21 April 2009 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell
If using in construction.... might be better to work with the PC as some enjoy in depth assessments rather than simple style for the workforce to use!
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#7 Posted : 21 April 2009 16:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Simon Belk
Hi

You have mail

Si
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#8 Posted : 22 April 2009 12:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
Hi Mark,

if you hover over my name the email addy is there, thanks!
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#9 Posted : 22 April 2009 12:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By clarkey
Hi

I have sent a couple of examples of the ones that we use.
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#10 Posted : 22 April 2009 12:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
didn't come through clarkey??
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#11 Posted : 22 April 2009 13:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken M
I have sent you an email Safe
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#12 Posted : 23 April 2009 00:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Your guys on Site need to be competent, adequately trained, have effective supervision and be provided with information and instruction relevant to their work.
I would personally question the use of Risk Assessments to achieve any of the above in an every day workplace setting.
I do not believe that Risk Assessments are the best or proper way to communicate a safe system of work, or that the Management Regs intend that.
The legal duty is to communicate the 'significant findings' of an assessment to employees/their representatives. I would usually consider a 'significant finding' to be a recognition and formal record that the control measures currently in place are not adequate and that some further action is necessary.
First and foremost, Risk Assessments are a management tool at the very beginning of an enabling process which arrives at a safe system of work.
Attempting to use the Assessment as a pro-forma to communicate information in some compact or simplistic fashion tends to be at odds with this requirement to ensure the Assessment is in all respects is suitable, sufficient & legally compliant.
Safety Method Statements (where appropriate) - now that would be a different matter entirely.
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#13 Posted : 23 April 2009 01:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sharastani
Don't concern yourself with the layout. Just identify what could go wrong, what you are going to do to reduce the probability of it going wrong and the persons responsible for ensuring the probability is reduced. All the rest is just pointless in my opinion.

If you are looking to achieve 3rd party accreditation then you may need to document more but from a day to day basis the rest is pointless.
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#14 Posted : 23 April 2009 06:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gus
Safe System

I know all you were asking for was some samples to improve your format ( i will mail mine) but the discussion raises some interesting points on risk assessment for me

1. I agree risk assessments should be a management tool used to identify a safe system of work prior to the work
2. I agree that the significant finding should be given to the workforce
3. The last post refers to 'reducing the probabilty'.. which would imply you estimate it before and after control interestingly the HSE's example risk assessment do not do this?

Personally I see no conflict between getting a simple readable format and the above requirements and no problem in then being able to communicate the assessment to the workforce in fact the best thing is to involve the workforce in writing the assessments,as no one understands the risk better than them!!
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#15 Posted : 23 April 2009 08:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By clarkey
Safe

Sorry I have re-sent it, don't know where I went wrong!

I do agree with what you are trying to say safe. It is a difficult balance between communicating what points need to be put across to operatives etc and covering the management side of things. It seems a case of 'keeping it simple' to get the workers to read and understand what is written down in the document. Any questions on what I have sent over then just let me know.
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#16 Posted : 23 April 2009 08:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
Exactly... sometimes looking at responses you can tell the safety advisors that work in construction with a balanced view...

Thanks for all the comments. Now as i live in the real world i have to go and make the risk assessments look pretty so they actually get looked at and maybe... just maybe.. being in a more simple layout.. it may just get through to someone...

have a great day all.
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#17 Posted : 23 April 2009 08:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
Ron - appreciate the sentiment.. but sucking eggs and all that.
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#18 Posted : 23 April 2009 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Safe System
reading those posts back apologies if they cause offence before i can trampled on!

its called being stuck in traffic for hours before getting to work and having coffee :)
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#19 Posted : 23 April 2009 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
No offence taken Safesystem.
When the mood takes me, I often try to explain my position for the benefit of others who may read the post, particulary where it has such an attractive & general heading. There are many readers of this Forum taking their first steps. Egg sucking not aimed at you.
On your question, if there was anything arising via any risk assessment that I wouldn't expect my competent & trained workforce already to be aware of, then I'd be more focussed on a "toolbox" talk script (and a well presented rolling program series of toolbox Talks on key topics) to ensure key messages are received and understood, as opposed to the format of the R/A itself.
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#20 Posted : 06 May 2009 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Manny
The MOD have produced a risk assessment form in leaflet 39 of their HSW handbook (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/CorporatePublications/HealthandSafetyPublications/JSP375/Jsp375Volume2.htm) that may be of interest. Unfortunately there are no worked examples or users notes. The form is available at the following link: http://www.mod.uk/Defenc...375HealthSafetyForms.htm

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