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Posted By JimE
HI folks,
Just wanted to say many thanks to all who have answered my pleas for advice in the past. I have been "warned" my services will no longer be requiered from next week as the downturn in business is so bad. The MD is considering outsourcing the factory's H&S needs.
So as redundency looms, again my sincere thanks to my fellow safety geeks.
Long LIve H&S.
JimE
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Posted By AMelrose
Jim
Sorry to hear your MD may be letting you go. I know from personal experience how unsettling the threat of redundancy can be.
Perhaps you could put together a business case for why your position IS important - include accident figures i.e. if there has been a reduction since you took over the position etc / training matrix and feedback from staff about the training. Then include the potential costs should a member of staff be injured if there was little or no H&S coverage and / or the approximate cost of outsourcing etc. May be a long shot but worth a try...
If that doesn't work - good luck in finding alternative employment.
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Posted By DPK
Have you not thought about making your services available to you employer on a contract basis or as their consultant.
Somebody is going to get paid for their services so why not you?
DPK
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Posted By JimE
DPK,
I suggested he "outsourced" it to me on a consultancy basis which he hadn't thought of.I have no idea what price to pitch that idea at so if you can help I would be greatful
JiM
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Posted By Safe System
Less than what you are earning now but not so much you struggle..
remember, as a contractor even earning less you will probably take home more due to tax deducatble benefits and your boss will be better off as no NI Contributions etc to pay on you..
he also doesn't have to worry about buying you equipment, training etc... (but you will get tax benefits from those)
you are also then in control to take on more work without running it past him...
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Posted By JimE
SS,
KK m8. Many thanx.
JiM
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Posted By Alan Haynes
Remember that when you are his employee - your cost to him is significantly more than your salary - [pension, NI etc etc] - so don't undervalue your own worth when going private.
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Posted By Safe System
true. Go for a retainer at the same amount you earn at the moment. They also will not have the expense of holiday pay, sick pay etc...
if he goes for it then hooray! if it doesn't then negotiations start going down from that figure... booo! but better than if you went in 5 or 10k cheaper than ur current salary and then started negotiations...
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Posted By DPK
Jim
Sorry i have only just managed to get back to you, the other posters have answered most of your question to me already. But you obviously need to take into account your current rate and only you know that.
Good luck at turning a bad day into a good one.
DPK
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Posted By JimE
Fellow H&S bods,
Many thanks for your input. I will take it all on board and let you know the outcome.
JimE
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Posted By R M Diss
Hi, I may be in a similar situation in a few weeks & was thinking of offering up the same arrangement. Can anyone give me some pointers re liability insurance (I assume I would need to have this although my workplace is a low risk office environment etc)
Thanks is advance
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Posted By DPK
R M Diss
You are correct you will need public liability and professional indemnity.
There are companies selling this type of insurance in SHP, i use a very good company that's name begins with S.
DPK
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