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i am trying a new method of RA and would like peoples thoughts
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Posted By john thos 147 i am trying to do a differnt type of RA and was hoping that some of you might take the time to look at and advise accorddingly.
As an explanation i am going to try and have one main RA doc this will sit alongside all of our more specific RA's
The idea is that as issues are raised i can simply asses the risk state the control measures in place if anyone wants a look please email or leave a link etc
thx johnp
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Posted By Paul Purvis hi johnp, I think an explanation of what environment you are working in? may assist people in overying advise
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Posted By Adam Worth John That sounds a bit like what I have been trying to do.
I use one 'generic' RA for a whole area / department that effectively prioritises hazard areas, and outlines overall controls. This is very useful as a training aid. (Similar to the HSE templates on their site)
This document provides an overall picture but points to more detailed risk assessments for routine tasks and outlines requirements for non routine tasks.
Does that make sense? I am happy to discuss further.
I need more time to tell you if it works here mind :)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Sorry to prick some bubbles but these approaches are not new. They are in fact the best way to approach the issue of risk management and can provide useful guidaance to those undertaking task specific assessments. I would add however that no risk assessment is truly effective if it:
a) is much more than one page long
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b) is not linked to some form of dynamic assessment process by the task performer.
Bob
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Posted By bereznikov Robert,
Just to confirm, are you saying that risk assessments should be limited to 1-2 pages, regardless of the process/activity/area/complexity of risk assessed?
bereznikov
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Posted By Adam Worth I can tick the b) box, that's the point i was trying to make.
But the a) box is a tad more tricky unless I use a size 1 font :)
I think the poster means new to them.. That's how I read it.
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Posted By Tabs I have also used this system, along side the more conventional. Horses for courses.
All of mine are whatever length they need to be in order to communicate or record - some hardly make a whole page, others fall to five pages. I try not to impose limits for reasons of tidiness or brevity.
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Posted By Andy Brazier The suggested 'new approach' sounds more like a risk register or risk screening exercise. Potentially very useful for identifying significant risks, that require a risk assessment, and less significant ones that don't.
Please remember the piece of paper you develop at the end is not a risk assessment. It is the process you go through to develop it that is. So you will need a method to follow.
With regard to the length of risk assessments, they should be as long as they need to be. The length of document used to communicate the findings is a completely different matter. Again, the piece of paper is not the risk assessment.
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Posted By Peter F Is this not just a workplace assessment taking into account the whole area and then a R/A specific to each task?
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Posted By naveen duggal Hi, Interesting topic, RA has been an on-going process of identifying the Risks or say your initial findings in the initial stages of how to do the process, task, job safely.varying in size,specifications, style of carrying out the jobs safely. I would be interested in details of RA methods. I feel that a better approach of workable Method-statement would be more appropriate in minimising the Risk factor which should be a collective discussion of the concerned team workers involved in the task/job best regards, Naveen Duggal
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Posted By john thos 147 Thankyou for all of your feedback, just to answer a few questions i have no doubt that this is not a new method i meant new to me. i find that most RA's that are done here do not cover all of the aspects of the process.
For instance if i go into the material preperation side which consists roughly of
4 laser cutting machines 3 plasma cutting machined 5 pressmachines 150t to 500t 3 roller machines lathes 5 big drills nibblers large band saw robot welder A line for building double decker buses a line for building chassis for dumper trucks
i feel that there is no point in stating that the lighting is ok for each individual item as the lighting is consistant throughout the factory.
the same applies for noise
after looking into this further i believe some of the responses i have recieved are spot on yes it will be like a hazard register and it will highlight individual proplems in each area.
i can then risk assess the hazards bty line i.e
manual handling:
LASER operation. cranes and jibs are provided they must be used at all times when lifting items over 25kg.
all operators are trained in manual handling and kinetic liftin with regular tool box talks being done annually. Supervision need to ensure that all ops are following that correct procedures by undertaking regulat walkrounds.
Non compliance should be dealt wit informally at first and then formally under the discippinary procedure for persistant offenders.
PLASMA =this as an assessment would be pretty much the same as the laser with the same kind of contols.
i can then do this for every process in what i would describe as a live document . if something new came up such as airbourne diseases ican then add this as a new category and so on and so on
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