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#1 Posted : 05 May 2009 10:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By vjester
A family memeber whom works for a well know haulage company has recently had an accident at work, this accident was not put in the accident book unitl a week later, he was not seen by a first aider and he was not taken to A&E, he had to make his own way there! 2 days later the doctor has signed him off for approx 6 - 8 wks (leg injury) he is type 2 diabetic he is now being told he will be insulin dependant type 1 ! He will now loose his class 1 license due to this. He has asked his union if they reported the injury they advised him that all changed last year its only if you die (which I know is utter rubbish). Also they have told him he will be loosing his job as he will be deemed as high risk ! however he has been trained in another sector of the company but they will not consider this ! His union have bascially told him to forget it and he hasn't got a chance in hell of going back to work for them, and he has not right to speak to the H&S manager.............I am tempted to report this myself to the HSE but am concerned it will harm is possibility of getting his job back as he doesn't want to claim against the company, he just wants to work ! Help?
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#2 Posted : 05 May 2009 10:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
As you suggest there has been a breach here in H&S & and by the sounds of it HR.

If the man in question is trained to do other work in the company and there is that work available they have to give reason why they cannot "slot" him into another role.

One has to ask the question why the person cannot speak with the H&S Manager. This company sounds like it may be dragging in its heels in the modern commercial world.

This union that you refer to, you mention they were quizzed if they reported it- why? unless something changed- this would be the employer's responsibility in normal circumstances.

Do you mind me asking who this union is- email me directly to avoid any breach of AUGs.

Something smells fishy here.

Lee
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#3 Posted : 05 May 2009 10:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By vjester
Lee

Forgive my ignorance how do i email you directly?

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#4 Posted : 05 May 2009 10:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Verona

Click on Lee's name in red under the heading of his response.

Paul
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#5 Posted : 05 May 2009 10:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By vjester
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It doesn't appear to work this end, its no in red its a light grey and doesn't highlight !
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#6 Posted : 05 May 2009 10:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
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#7 Posted : 05 May 2009 11:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
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I forgot to say that you need to log in first; sorry.

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#8 Posted : 05 May 2009 11:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
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You have mail


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#9 Posted : 05 May 2009 15:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard G Chalkley
If another Union point of view would help, let me know.
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#10 Posted : 05 May 2009 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By vjester
Richard

Many thanks !!!

You have mail !

Verona
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#11 Posted : 05 May 2009 16:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Blenkharn
What sort of leg injury causes a type II diabetic to develop or progress to type I diabetes?

Check your facts and be careful not to jump to unlikely assumtions before your relative starts to raise a complaint or take action only to discover that this make matters worse for him/her
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#12 Posted : 05 May 2009 16:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By vjester
The leg injury has not caused type 1 diabeties....however the fact that the company are saying my relative is now high risk so will not have a job to come back to, they are not carrying out the correct HR or H&S procedures.

It was unfortunate that my relative was told whilst he was placed on sick leave that he is now insulin dependant, it was pure coincidence !
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#13 Posted : 05 May 2009 16:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By john thos 147
to be fair if he didnt get first aid at work or the first aider sent him to hospital i wouldn,t expect the accident book to be filled in as usually they need input from the injured party. The actual onus for filling the accident book in is on the employee.

more imprtantly would be checking if the accident is reported under RIDDOR that is again presuming that it was an over 3 day accident. (this is an easy process and the guys at RIDDOR should copy you in on the actual report anonymously.

if the company that your friend worked for hasnt done this then you can do it yourself on line " just type riddor reporting and you should gey there"

a company i worked for years ago didnt report under riddor on one occassion and to be honest they wern't that concerned they were more interested in habitual offenders.

I dont know how long your friend has been off but you need to look up his rights under DDA.

This will state thing that a person with a disibility should be accomadated, changes to the working enviroment etc or another role . they only have to consider another role if one is available and dont have to create one for him.

as an ex shop steward i would advise him to complain in writing (Grievance ) detailing his issues this way they will have to respond to him formally. If it isnt in writing he will have little recourse at work in the future.

i also advise that he takes written notes at the grievance and also logs all converstaions with times and dates.If you want any further info contact me direct on my email.
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