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#1 Posted : 06 May 2009 06:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Paul-Jones
Does anyone know the background to the story on R4 this a.m. about the policeman who refused to pose on a stationary bicycle for a publicity shot on the grounds that it had not been risk assessed?

It smacks of the 'fireman not being allowed to use ladders' story from last year which was really about a union dispute.

Yet another John Humphries H&S bashing session. How very tiresome...
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#2 Posted : 06 May 2009 09:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs
I don't know the background, but I have a flavour of the reaction. It did the email rounds here and the overwhelming response from people was to call the copper's motive into question.
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#3 Posted : 06 May 2009 09:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell
Ten to a dozen the person likely refused as he/she did not have permission from their senior officer... and may have used something as an excuse to fob the off?
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#4 Posted : 06 May 2009 09:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By clairel
Round here they are reporting it that the officer refused to ride the bike becuase he hadn't passed his cycling proficiency test?
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#5 Posted : 06 May 2009 11:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F
According to the paper it was not that it had not been risk assessed, he claimed he had not passed his cycling proficiency test (yes the same one we all did as kids, I think I still have my badge somewhere. I had to borrow a friends bike to complete it.

The police officer claims 'he was just being cautious as he hadn't passed the test and in this day and age you need to cover all bases'.

Luckily the female officer had completed hers so she could ride around for the camera.

It was only a couple of years ago that the police sent so many to America to receive the training there, only cost about £75.000.

Maybe this will stop them riding on the pavements and use the road.
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#6 Posted : 06 May 2009 12:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J
The cycling proficiency requirement was introduced after an young officer was knocked down and killed a couple of years ago.
It is simply to assess the basic skills of a rider and pass some tips across.
You can't assume that everyone is competant to ride bikes just because they did it as a kid. I had a break of 12 years from cycling and I would suggest I was less than competant or steady when getting back on it again despite having riden motorbikes in the interim.

John
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#7 Posted : 06 May 2009 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F
'it's just like riding a bike' is the saying once you've learnt you know how. It's an excuse and appears to have the backing of some as a realistic excuse.

If the police shouldn't ride a bike until shown how then why didn't they send someone who had passed the test to pick the bike up, instead of looking stupid. They asked him to ride around the car park not go on a chase.

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#8 Posted : 06 May 2009 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally
Perhaps he can't actually ride a bike - not all adults can.
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#9 Posted : 06 May 2009 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J
So we are happy to put our employees amoungst heavy traffic without even the basic knowledge of their competancy other than an old saying?
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#10 Posted : 06 May 2009 15:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs
Where did you get that from John J? Who said that?
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#11 Posted : 06 May 2009 16:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By John J
Tabs,

To quote

'it's just like riding a bike' is the saying once you've learnt you know how'.

On this basis there is zero requirement for competancy tests in any activity we do in conjunction with work as once you learn you never forget.

John

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#12 Posted : 06 May 2009 17:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Dawson
John, FGS the quote continued:

"It's an excuse and appears to have the backing of some as a realistic excuse."

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