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#1 Posted : 08 May 2009 14:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Scott Meechan
Quick question - How would you deal with the following situation? 3 companies involved - we(company 1) take equipment to the boundary of company 2 - company 3 is brought in by company 2 but paid for by us(company 1). at no point is company 3 on our land. Should we have a permit to work in place as it is still our equipment, or should we be supplied with all information from company 2 and 3?
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#2 Posted : 08 May 2009 14:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rod D
Is the task of a High Risk that would require to be undertaken under Permit Conditions?


Aye

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#3 Posted : 08 May 2009 14:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Scott Meechan
task is involving cranes
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#4 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R
Who is in charge of the works as a whole? is their a principle contractor?
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#5 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Scott Meechan
the principal contractor in this would be company 2 as they control the movement of our equipment from that point until it is handed over to the vessel
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#6 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R
Then it is company 2 who is responsible for controlling the works in accordance with their policy.
Your responsibility is to ensure the safety of the equipment you own (ie LOLER inspection certs, maintenance regime etc) the company in control of the works has overall responsibility of the task.
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#7 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R
... so no you don't require a permit to work from yourselves.
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#8 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Scott Meechan
Brilliant, was thinking that but wanted to confirm.

Thanks
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#9 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R
No problem
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#10 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel
who is the client
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#11 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By graeme12345
I think you are talking about a hired and managed crane lift,

I which case the organisation requiring the load to be moved will need to;

carry out all work to (used to be) BS7121

supply appointed person

plan the lift / operate a safe system of work

ensure the crane is of the right type for the work, has all the necessary documentation supplied with it.

you need to ensure that the crane is properly maintained, tested, and supply a competent operator

hope this helps

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#12 Posted : 08 May 2009 15:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Scott Meechan
the client would be number 4 in the chain, they are a vessel that is collecting from us the equipment
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