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Posted By Stephen Gilpin
Please can someone give me advice on the legislation of toilet waste pipes.
The problem is that a housing association property toilets will not flush solids away at all and manual help is needed each time to clear the toilet.
What information do i need to encourage the housing association to act and rectify the problems which is a serious health hazard.
Also where can i obtain any suitable paperwork to help me to re-enforce my complaint and request for action from the housing association.
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Posted By Richard Altoft
Building Control Officers and Building Regulations or contractual obligations of original builders and building owners/landlords might be a better route here to exert pressure than H&S which is mainly concerned with H&S at Work. Sound to be unfit for habitation.
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Posted By Anthony Edwards
Stephen,
Have you investigated water pressure, the amount of toilet paper being put in the toilet, if water saving devices such as Hippo's are reducing the flow of water etc?
Regards
Tony
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Posted By Stephen Gilpin
Yes the water pressure and volume is good, the waste pipe fitted to one of the is actually at an angle causing it to go "up hill" (so to speak) causing a gravity issue. the oter one the waste pipe hve a lip on the inside and this cause anything down there to snag when flushed and therefore not being flushed way.
I need to get the housing association to act to reduce the hazards from this and the risk of health. this has been an ongoing problem. fo the tennants.
Hence why i was enquiring on any legislation to make them act
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Posted By Stephen Gilpin
I will alo seeek advice from building inspection and other routes to assist me here
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Posted By Descarte
I have a friend with a similar problem, I understand he had a device fitted in the pipe after the U bend which gave the waste an extra push, it did have a specific name but cant for the life of me remember sorry.
It may be that if this is an isolated case a simple device could be added to remove this issue.
As to the reqirement / obligation for the remedy of this issue, as stated above it may be a contractual one rather than elf and safety, unless it is a place of work.
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Posted By ian_f
As Des has said, this is not a true H&S matter or has nothing to do with building regs; as long as the property was constructed say more than 2 years ago. Could be a contractual matter with the builder if newly constructed and or an NHBC quality issue.
This type of issue would have previously come under housing fitness under the Housing Act 1985, however this has been replaced with the Housing Health & Safety Rating System (HHSRS).
The hazard profile C:Protection against Infection and section 17 personal hygiene, sanitation and drainage it was this needs to be assessed under.
Item 17.30 mentions pipework suitability! I would imagine that the actual hazard score rating would be very low...due to the the likelihood of someone being extremely ill is very low.
You need to contact your landlord and make a formal complaint regarding the disrepair that pipework is in, request that they inspect the pipework and complete necessary repairs to ensure that the pipework adequately and freely discharges.
It may well be that a macerator device (sani-flo) is required.
Good luck.
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Posted By Ian Blenkharn
Cascara?
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Posted By Ian Blenkharn
Or if all reasonable approaches have fallen on deaf ears, get the local paper involved - in writing of course, not torn into little squares and hung on a nail behind the door.
Perhaps that will get 'em shifted!
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