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#1 Posted : 22 June 2009 15:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anthony Edwards Hi all, A housing association conducts a fire risk assessment for it's various workplaces, offices yards etc. What obligations/responsibilities have they got regarding the tenanted homes? Thanks for any responses in advance Regards Tony
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#2 Posted : 22 June 2009 15:57:00(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 22 June 2009 16:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Coshh Assessor In a nutshell: the common parts of blocks of flats etc should also be assessed, but there is normally no requirement for fire risk assessments for the individual homes.
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#4 Posted : 22 June 2009 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Zunda Just about to post a response but beaten to the draw by the above!
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#5 Posted : 22 June 2009 16:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By water67. Hi, As has been said only common areas need to be assessed. But don't forget things like hard wired smoke detectors, gas appliances etc. need to be checked. It is also useful to distribute information to tenants re fire safety of the building, etc.
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#6 Posted : 26 June 2009 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Geoff B McDonnell Hi, You will also find that quite a few local authorities are insisting that FRAs are carried out on the whole building (including flats) after officers have been in and carried out an HHSRS inspection. So it is not as cut and dried as it appears!
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#7 Posted : 29 June 2009 13:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By marcusblack The Housing Health & Safety Rating Scheme is a totally different piece of legislation. There is no requirement to carry out a fire risk assessment. Individual dwellings are exempt from the RRO. The landlord may be challenged over their HHSRS assessment but not under RRO by the fire service or others. Mark
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#8 Posted : 29 June 2009 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Geoff B McDonnell Indeed you are correct but the local authority can put down a requirement for a fire risk assessment to include all areas of the block if they have found Category 1 or 2 risks as part of the HHSRS inspection.
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#9 Posted : 29 June 2009 15:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Absolutely right - you beat me to it. Also bear in mind that there may be dual responsibility - by this I mean that there may be joint action in that the local authority may inspect some areas in terms of the Housing Act 2004 and the fire brigade may be carrying out fire risk assessments within the common areas in relation to the RRO if required. More to do with HMO's but could be relevant.
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#10 Posted : 06 July 2009 10:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gannaway Although not part of common areas, if a landlord has installed hard wired detection systems, or increasingly believe it of not sprinkler systems in flats, then there is an enduring duty to maintain the systems. Also remember that front doors onto common areas are part of the common area fire route and are the responsibility of the landlord. I have also noted that in some general purpose blocks there are single fire alarm systems connecting common areas and flats, so someone burning toast can trigger the whole building. These false alarms should be eliminated and as such it is the landlords responsibility to install conforming staff within flats.
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