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#1 Posted : 06 August 2009 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pradeesh Prabhakaran Dear all, I need some guide lines and advice to make a tower crane operator rescue plan. kindly send me your advice to 'pradeesh@hotmail.com' Regards, Pradeesh
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#2 Posted : 06 August 2009 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Roche Pradeesh , I had the same issue recently . When I researched I found numerous rescue systems on the market that could be used. After considering different rescue systems and other means of rescue I eventually came to the conclusion that it is hard to deem anyone on site competent to carry out such a rescue should the need arise ( which I also thought would be remote ) In my opinion pre employment medicals and careful selection of drivers to ensure driver is healthy in body and competent to do the job minimised the risk . After that in the event of emergency first aid to driver and wait for emergency services , also if you contact the local emergency services they can advise you as to their capabilities for tower crane rescue. Hope this helps.
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#3 Posted : 06 August 2009 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Whilst I fully agree with the above, as always it is down to risk asessment. If you have special circumstances you need to make the special arrangements. Also do not rely on the emergency services. Competency is all about training and constant practicing. With the kits available on the market these days, and the numerous training companies, it is not as onerous as you would think. Phil
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#4 Posted : 06 August 2009 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Roche Phil, Good points to which I agree . I Would be interested to know the statistics / frequency for tower crane drivers rescues and how actual emergency situations went as opposed to drills ? Phil.
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#5 Posted : 06 August 2009 17:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By alex mccreadie A lot of the posters having given the only way ahead. Operators medically fit and properly trained and properly equipped rescue teams. These are easy to achieve as there are plenty of good trainers out there with one having an actual Tower Crane cab and jib to train on. Not definite but the only Tower Crane rescue to a sick Operator in recent years was made difficult as the Para Medic froze when he got to high.( I don't know the Operator but I do know his son) Never rely on the availability of the rescue services who knows where they might be. Alex
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#6 Posted : 07 August 2009 09:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Ritchie Pradeesh, Try High Access Rescue Team at: http://www.hartrescue.org.uk/ My brother is part of their team but on holiday at present time. Regards David
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#7 Posted : 07 August 2009 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant Until the OP says where he's from, there's not much point making UK-specific suggestions. Laws, accepted practices, equipment and training are totally different from country to country, and I'm naturally suspicious of the motives of a poster who demands the replies are sent to an email address. As to the prevalence of non-self rescues in the UK, it's a handful but it's increasing year-on-year in line with crane deployment. The number is not the issue - there are a similarly-small number of confined space accidents in the UK each year, but people accept they're expected to provide for rescue on site and not just phone for help. There are many reasons why an operator may need assisted descent, and you can't avoid them by passing a medical. Even fit people get injured. Some UK fire services have the capability to rescue from structures over 50m, some do not. In most cases retained crews will not be permitted to climb a tower crane of any form, for any reason, and will defer to a regional line team. Response times vary, but for some regions you're easily looking at over an hour before the first boot leaves the ground. NHS policy is that standard ambulance crews absolutely will not climb anything that requires a harness (including caged ladders). We have HART USAR crews in a few UK regions trained to use fall arrest, but they still climb under FS line team supervision, who provide the statutory rescue backup for the HART technician and some of the gear.
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#8 Posted : 07 August 2009 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chas Posters may be interested in the following link to images of a crane collapse that happened in Croydon in 2007 or 2008. The sequence of pictures shows the crane collapsing and the emergency services using a line rescue technique to get to the operator. [The link is an old one, I hope it still works]. http://www.sitbonzo.com/crane/
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#9 Posted : 07 August 2009 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By alex mccreadie Dave Nice response I wish it could be passed on to the Tower Crane Users not the hire companies. There are still far to many Major Construction Companies who put(Call Emergency Services) on their Method Statements as a get out clause for supposed Rescue Procedures. Sadly there are still to few HSE Inspectors to police this. Also some we have had meetings with saying it is our responsibility as hirer's to ensure the customer has rescue procedures in place. As we supply 99% of the Operators I can understand under the H&SAWA where they are coming from. We as a company try to educate the customer but this is difficult if they are not prepared to accept advice. Yes we do hire under CPA Terms and Conditions and have a form signed by the customer to say they have an Appointed Person available to plan and control lifting operations. Regulation wise that covers us as the hirer's but morally I still feel the need to educate. Ta Alex
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#10 Posted : 07 August 2009 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Merchant Ta - until recently it was a bit of an elephant for fire services, as they knew they didn't have the equipment and training to do anything, so preferred not to make a noise about it. Luckily most now have line rescue teams in place, and some brigades are doing specific training exercises for and on tower cranes (LFB for example have addressed it, because of the veritable forest of stuff going up for 2012). "Some" is still the operative word, and if I wasn't being all legal I could name a few teams which wouldn't have the faintest clue if their TL doesn't reach. There's still a major issue with both FS and in-house rescue in that they're only trained to climb on an undamaged structure - as soon as it breaks, they need to bring in the crane company's engineering team to decide what's safe and stable, and on occasion that's added several _days_ to the recovery of occupants. Self-escape kits can be vital in those situations, as the driver may be relatively uninjured even if the crane flops over a rooftop, but nobody else can get to the cab.
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