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#1 Posted : 19 August 2009 13:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ruxley Is it my imagination or does everyone now think they are an H&S expert? I spend half my time explaining to staff, union reps and members of the public that a situation is NOT dangerous or does not breach H&S rules and regulations. This often involves a good deal of paperwork, research and justification, especially when mass hysteria has set in or some obsure piece of information has been sucked of the internet by someone. And of course, everything on the internet is true - isn't it?
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#2 Posted : 19 August 2009 13:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Luke. Your right! i'm talking to guys on site... then... one pipes up, that's not the law, to which you reply yes it is.... and then they start trying to convince you (and everyone) around them, that they are right and you are wrong! I have a field day with 're-education' ;)
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#3 Posted : 19 August 2009 14:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By justgossip in the van I carry a number of blue books and when they get a a bee in thier bonnet I pull out the book and show them they are talking rubbish. Garry
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#4 Posted : 19 August 2009 15:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By AMelrose Love when some "hack" tabloid journalist decides it's about time to "educate" the masses by producing an article without bothering to check the facts properly then get told by a member of staff that "it was in the paper so you must be wrong". Even if I produce research papers, books etc then you still get the skeptical look and "well, they must have got their information from somewhere...and it MUST be more up to date than your source" Arghhhh!
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#5 Posted : 19 August 2009 16:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Everyone THINKS they are an expert and in some cases of course they ARE an expert because they all know how to do the job safely. What they don't understand is the subtle underlying issues associated with health and safety management, including specific regulations. Only today I had to remind a site supervisor that we don't manage safety based on a 'worst case' scenario. We all know the repercussions 'if' it goes wrong. That's why we do our utmost to ensure we have a SSoW in place, but we can never guarantee safety.
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#6 Posted : 19 August 2009 16:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Seamus O Sullivan Yes, there are many self appointed experts out there. Some may raise some good points though. I have discovered that many Health and safety laws, just like other laws are often misinterperted, the only true source of the law is the law itself. Regardless of how one feels about what the law means, It does boil down to the exact words used when the statute was passed. Can one always be sure something is not dangerous ? It may be difficult to say to someone that something is safe, is a task really safe, or is it really safer than the way others might do it, or instead of being safe is it just acceptable. What is considered safe today may not be considered safe tomorrow.
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#7 Posted : 19 August 2009 18:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jack "Is it my imagination or does everyone NOW think they are an H&S expert?" Yes, but the NOW is redundant. It has been the case for the 30 odd years I've been involved. But then I think it's healthy.
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#8 Posted : 19 August 2009 18:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By martinw Happily I am relatively new to H&S(5 or so years). The day that I think that I am an expert is the day I should jack it in because my head will have got too big for my hard hat.
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