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Davies-Shuck36313  
#1 Posted : 05 November 2009 11:31:17(UTC)
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Davies-Shuck36313

I take on a new role next year as a Training safety Advisor with cadets, with the work I do on that job I could do my NVQ level 4 in H&S or would I do better to do my NEBOSH Diploma?
Which is seen as the better quil? Any feed back would be most welcome.

Pete D-S
Les  
#2 Posted : 05 November 2009 12:52:11(UTC)
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Les

Pete,
If your looking to progess to CMIOSH, then both qualifications will enable you to apply for GradIOSH, the difference is the route you take to CMIOSH:

See this link for details: http://www.iosh.co.uk/me...embership/about_ipd.aspx


Many jobs advertised ask for NEBOSH Diploma or equivalent e.g. NVQ level 4

LJ.


BJC  
#3 Posted : 05 November 2009 13:16:13(UTC)
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No contest NVQ 4 is much cheaper and imho easier. Also you dont have to construct the Tome known as SDP that IOSH introduced; just sit an open book exam and then grovel to committee types to gain CMIOSH.
Davies-Shuck36313  
#4 Posted : 06 November 2009 08:21:42(UTC)
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Davies-Shuck36313

Cheers,

for the information I think I will look into the NQV level 4 once I am in post as I do wont to work towards CMIOSH.
juls  
#5 Posted : 06 November 2009 09:03:17(UTC)
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juls


Hi
Having just completed my NVQ level 4 I would disagree with BJA on the easier bit.
I think both routes are hard work but in a different way.
The NEBOSH route is an exam with a pass rate of 60%; you need to study hard and there's a lot to learn.
The NVQ is 100% pass, you have to be able to complete each unit and demonstrate competence for each learning objective.
If you decide to embark on the NVQ you need to be sure you are going to be able to demonstrate involvement in all the areas of the standard. So if you have a limited field of H&S responsibility in your organisation you might struggle and in that case you'd be better with the NEBOSH route.
NVQ is all about explaining how you do your job which allows you to reflect on your pratice from that point of view it sets you up well for your IOSH portfolio.

Good luck, whichever you choose it's still hard work!
BJC  
#6 Posted : 06 November 2009 10:26:54(UTC)
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Juls

I didnt mean to denigrate Safety professionals who go the NVQ route as I have used them and have found them to be excellent.
Davies-Shuck36313  
#7 Posted : 11 November 2009 10:40:47(UTC)
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Davies-Shuck36313

Thanks for the feed back (starting to get my head round the NQV 4)

I think I will take up the post and see if I can meet all the learning objectives for the NVQ level 4 (give it 6 months).
What sort of proof do they require for each area to show competence, reports, inspections, training programs, accident investagation, review of systems and their up dates, meetings?

Any feed back would be most welcome
arigger48  
#8 Posted : 11 November 2009 10:59:39(UTC)
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arigger48

I think the major issue is whether you want suitable qualifications to become a member of IOSH or if you would prefer to develop as Health and safety professional. Over several years of recruiting and developing safety teams I have always found it more difficult to develop people with NVQ's rather than diploma qualifications.
Sweep  
#9 Posted : 11 November 2009 14:16:42(UTC)
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Sweep

Hello there

Just tagging on to the topic

NVQ evidence based, so you still have to do the work and answer questions.

Both hard, both worth doing for the same result in the end CMIOSH
bill.k  
#10 Posted : 11 November 2009 15:41:22(UTC)
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bill.k

Norwich19353 wrote:
I think the major issue is whether you want suitable qualifications to become a member of IOSH or if you would prefer to develop as Health and safety professional. Over several years of recruiting and developing safety teams I have always found it more difficult to develop people with NVQ's rather than diploma qualifications.


Could you please clarify the comment regarding the difficulties of developing people with NVQ's. I would be very interested to hear your reasoning, and wonder if this is a perception shared by others?
Chalmers-Brown  
#11 Posted : 11 November 2009 16:30:01(UTC)
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Chalmers-Brown

Having done both the Old Diploma and an NVQ 4 I would reccomend the NVQ 4 as the better route for no academics. The Diploma demonstrates an ability to answer exam questions. The point of NVQ 4 is that it is a benchmark of your ability to do various H&S tasks to a competent level. It can be seen as a complement but if you are used to the NVQ system which many Further Education Courses follow, then you will find it easier. If you are not able to demonstrate all of the required sections then the provider can arrange for a simulation to be used. Luckily i did not need that but felt it useful for some whose work did not present them with the necessary experience and oportunity to demonstrate their skills and abilities.

Good luck!
Davies-Shuck36313  
#12 Posted : 12 November 2009 10:01:43(UTC)
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Davies-Shuck36313

Thanks again for the feed back,

Having done my NEBOSH General, Fire and Construction certs and as you say all were exam based.

Having compeared the time to study, the travel (live in North Scotland) and cost of the Diploma v NVQ 4 , and the fact I most still do my day job (bills to pay).

It looks like I will go the NVQ route and must say if I do get the chance I would still like to do the Diploma as it still seems to be the blue ribbion when you check out job spec's.
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