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prads  
#1 Posted : 10 August 2010 14:30:09(UTC)
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prads

Do we need to have flashback arresters both at the nozzle as well as the cylinder-hose connection on a Oxy-Acetylene welding set? Any help!
DHM  
#2 Posted : 10 August 2010 15:38:06(UTC)
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DHM

We have at our sites that use this equipment. I guess its down to your risk assessment?
imwaldra  
#3 Posted : 10 August 2010 16:54:02(UTC)
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imwaldra

The British Compressed Gases Association (BCGA) publishes relevant guidance, available via their webpage.
Thomas Chambers  
#4 Posted : 10 August 2010 17:17:00(UTC)
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Thomas Chambers

prads wrote:
Do we need to have flashback arresters both at the nozzle as well as the cylinder-hose connection on a Oxy-Acetylene welding set? Any help!
Oxy fuel welding a cutting equipment has come a long way over the past fifty years. The equipment is much safer than at any time in its history. Having said this it is still dangerous. As Ian has stated the British Compressed Gases Association offers a lot of literature on this matter. The answer is primarily yes although you should be aware that most modern welding and cutting totches do tend to act as a flash back arrestor in their own right. Another area that would be worth your consideration is the lease lend schemes offered by the major gas suppliers. Here all of your equipment is technically replaced for free including regulators and hoses etc. They then go back to the manufacturers workshop and are completely rebuilt, tested and returned to service. Not necessarily with you. One advantage of this it removes the need for maintenance departments to make inappropriate repairs such as jubilee clips in stead of crimped joints at the end of the hoses. A common cause of leaks and subsequent fires.Hope this helps have a look at the BOC website for more details. Not sure if any of the other manufacturers run a similar scheme. The danger of course is small contractors who may not be aware of such a scheme.
paul.skyrme  
#5 Posted : 10 August 2010 21:42:07(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

The "flash back arrestors" at the nozzle to which you refer are actually only non return valves at the torch. They are not full flashback arrestors. The principles of design and operation of these devices cannot deny the laws of physics and remain unchanged in recent history (since perfected) it is merely the mode of operation and reliability that has been improved. Torches have always acted as an arrestor as once past the torch the mixture in the lines is inherently non flammable, as long as there are no other defects. In the same way that the inside of a sealed acetylene or oxygen bottle cannot combust. One has no fuel, the other no oxidant. Equipment has come a long way due to design, manufacturing and reliability improvements in the fundamental operation, not changes in the laws of physics! I would also strongly recommend the BCGA guidance. Also you may find your insurer has something to say about the timescale between inspection, maintenance and replacement of your compressed oxy-fuel gas equipment.
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