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Alison Olsen  
#1 Posted : 24 September 2013 14:37:22(UTC)
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Alison Olsen

Just curious if anyone has an idea about the rationale for HSE including scalping as a major injury in the proposed revision of RIDDOR. The Impact Assessment states "Any degree of scalping – the annual average number of non-fatal RIDDOR reports submitted regarding scalping (based on three years of data) is roughly 1,100. This estimate is based on RIDDOR reports submitted to HSE for lacerations to the head, which was deemed the best surrogate for the data required." however the guidance clearly states that 'lacerations where the skin is not separated from the head' are not to be considered as scalping. Wondering which industries are having scalping injuries? In 20 years, I've not come across one. (Maybe I've just been lucky?)
redken  
#2 Posted : 24 September 2013 15:26:31(UTC)
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redken

Scalping is the traumatic separation or peeling of the skin from the head due to an accident, eg hair becoming entangled in machinery. Lacerations where the skin is not separated from the head are not included, nor are surgical procedures where skin removal is deliberate. http://www.hse.gov.uk/riddor/docs/riddor-2013.pdf
Alison Olsen  
#3 Posted : 24 September 2013 15:42:40(UTC)
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Alison Olsen

Sorry if I haven't made my question clear. I know what the definition of scalping is. I was trying to ask why it's being included in RIDDOR 13. The HSE seem to be justifying it's inclusion based on RIDDOR report numbers for lacerations when clearly lacerations aren't scalpings. I was also asking what types of industries are they expecting to have reports from? After 20 years in manufacturing and all manner of moving machinery, I haven't had anyone (touch wood) with a scalping.
redken  
#4 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:04:32(UTC)
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redken

You were wondering which industries and I tried to give you a reply - "an accident, eg hair becoming entangled in machinery" Those indsutries with (rotating) machinery.
Phil W  
#5 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:09:40(UTC)
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Phil W

Just because it may not have happened in the UK does not mean that it is not possible. Maybe the HSE have taken into account the accident in America in 2012 involving a young lady getting her hair caught in a machine and being pulled into it. Just do a Google search for Monica Thayer. Phil W
Clairel  
#6 Posted : 24 September 2013 17:44:07(UTC)
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Clairel

Alison Olsen wrote:
In 20 years, I've not come across one. (Maybe I've just been lucky?)
Just because you've not had one anywhere you've worked that doesn't mean they haven't happened! Scalpings in engineering type industries are more than a theoretical risk. I don't think they will be as common nowadays due to better awareness, better guarding, less engineering jobs and possibly mens hair being fashionably shorter nowadays (well, men still are the primary employees in engineering as far as I'm aware) A pillar drill or lathe and long hair. Awful. Same as de-gloving is a real issue in many industries (and climbing). Seen incidents with hands and arms being taken into blades due to a loose thread too. Same principle. As is being taken round an unguarded PTO from a bit of loose clothing. I'm really not sure I understand why you are questioning scalping as being a valid 'major' injury?
stuie  
#7 Posted : 24 September 2013 19:47:05(UTC)
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stuie

Been there had that - a very nasty accident that involve a female losing patch of hair from the top of her head about the size of a tennis ball, no other injuries other than a bald patch - as if that is not bad enough. She got her hair and protective hair net (food industry) caught in an unguarded drive shaft underneath a machine (she shouldn't have been there but that's a story for another day) which resulted in a riddor due to the passage of time with the lady concerned suffering stress/trauma and the stigma involved, as well having time off to source an expensive hair piece at the companies expense etc. She was told that she would only have about 40% regrowth of the hair that was torn out - so long tern physical damage to young lady. Maybe that's why they want to separate out this type of injury? Stuart
Jim Harper  
#8 Posted : 24 September 2013 21:30:11(UTC)
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Jim Harper

When previously working at an engineering company, we had two scalpings within 15 months and it was the same person. He was working on a radial drilling machine and whilst the drill bit was running, put his head next to the drill to line the mark up. His hair was caught in the drill, he was pulled across the table and dumped into the adjacent aisle. A section of his scalp was ripped out and incredulous as it may sound he did exactly the same thing again just over a year later.
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