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martin1885  
#1 Posted : 29 November 2014 23:32:03(UTC)
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martin1885

Hello, This is my first post so apologies if I have posted to the wrong part of the forum I am currently working in IT and am looking for a career change and move into health and safety and I am confused to what steps/certificates to go for and take first. I see that if I take the NeBOSH National Certificate you need to complete a worked based assessment to get the cert which in my current role I wouldn't be in a position to be able to do this so I am stumped where to start. Several years a go I did a Level 2 in Occupational Health and Safety and found it really interesting and now want to peruse it further can anyone give me some further information where to start? Thanks Martin
pradeesh  
#2 Posted : 30 November 2014 08:25:32(UTC)
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pradeesh

Hi Martin, Welcome to the MAD club, NEBOSH NGC will be good option to start with, Also NGC 3 Unit is not about a work based assessment, its a practical assessment you do which demonstrate what you learned from NGC1 and NGC2... I don't think you need to be HSE person to complete your NGC... if you was a working person it will be slightly easy to understand the health and safety aspects fast... hope this helps, Regards, Pradeesh
martin1885  
#3 Posted : 30 November 2014 18:31:05(UTC)
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martin1885

Hello Pradesh, Thanks for the reply and welcome So just go for the Nebosh NGC then, I have the books and looking to study at home while I work then do the exam Is Nebosh the best starting place or can you do iosh ones? Regards, Martin
pradeesh  
#4 Posted : 30 November 2014 18:44:19(UTC)
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pradeesh

In my view you should go for Nebosh NGC will be giving more openings to you...... Since its a new start try to do the class room course rather than e learning or distance learning.... its always good to hear from the trainer straight.... good luck mate Cheers, Prad
jodieclark1510  
#5 Posted : 01 December 2014 08:47:36(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Hi Martin, I started out dong IOSH Managing Safely through work and then self funded my Nebosh certs, with regard to the practical, I wasn't in a position to do it at my place of work eiterher, so while I was going about my merry business I had a notebook and jotted down what I saw etc to help me through. I do agree though classroom based would be the best option, I was classroom for ngc and fire, now doing my diploma e learning and its a completely different kettle of fish! I found also in the classroom you can draw on others which is good if you don't have a lot of practical experience, while e learning is not quite the same. Good luck in whatever you choose! I look forward to hearing updates! Jodie
David Bannister  
#6 Posted : 01 December 2014 10:49:26(UTC)
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David Bannister

Good luck in your career progress Martin. I too agree that a classroom based NGC will be of more long term benefit than home study, simply because of all the other participants who will have different insights, stories and experiences that you will be exposed to, plus a tutor/lecturer/teacher who will most likely perform better to a wider audience by answering questions that you may not have even thought of. Plus, you will make friendships and make contacts in our profession that will serve you well in what can be a lonely existence.
chris42  
#7 Posted : 01 December 2014 11:49:56(UTC)
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chris42

I think the question is how do you do the workplace assessment if not already doing some sort of H&S role. I think as Jodie said if you have access to the workplace then you can still do the assessment. You may need to talk to some individuals about current practices and you may need to get someone's permission to send off your review of their company to a third party (and go around asking questions). You could always say that you will also give them a copy of the report and that if you find something significant you will inform them first. I your company will not play ball, do you know any other company's that may like a free review of their set up ? Chris
aland76  
#8 Posted : 01 December 2014 12:06:23(UTC)
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aland76

When I took my NGC there were a couple of unemployed students there in the same boat. The college offered a tour of the workshop to allow those guys to conduct their assessment, and people in the group also kindly offered to allow them access to areas of their sites to carry out assessments, so it really wasn't too much of an issue in the end. Alan
martin1885  
#9 Posted : 01 December 2014 20:37:25(UTC)
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martin1885

Hello All, Thanks very much for all your comments and help on this, I have been speaking to a health and training guy today and says the best starting point would be to do IOSH managing safety and then process onto nebosh gc and I can do via elearning which is the only option for me at the moment and it's the only affordable option too, what do you all think? Cheers Martin
pradeesh  
#10 Posted : 01 December 2014 20:49:49(UTC)
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pradeesh

Hi Martin, The end call is yours... See what suits well for you.. IOSH MS is not a bad start..and you can do Nebosh NGC later as well.. Cheers, Pradeesh
Steve W1  
#11 Posted : 02 December 2014 15:38:29(UTC)
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Steve W1

Hi Martin Welcome to the world of H&S. I would agree with the other replies to this post namely, do a IOSH MS course first then a NEBOSH GC. If you wish to progress further it depends on your circumstances and pocket. NEBOSH Dip or NVQ level 5 in occupational health and safety. You could apply for Grad IOSH status with either of these and keeping your CPD with IOSH up to date, then progress to Chartered member as long as you fulfill the criteria for chartered status. http://www.iosh.co.uk/Me...ship/Qualifications.aspx You may go down other routes depending on the area of H&S you may be interested in or if you manage to get a H&S position. Good luck Martin steve w
jjf  
#12 Posted : 03 December 2014 08:59:54(UTC)
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jjf

I would start with IOSH MS then move on to NEBOSH NGC. If you are serious about becoming a competent H&S professional then remember that the NGC is only the beginning, as it is a qualification for managers and supervisors who have responsibilities for H&S. You really need to be focusing on the bigger picture and looking on towards NEBOSH diploma, NVQ L5 etc. Good luck!
jwk  
#13 Posted : 03 December 2014 09:24:21(UTC)
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jwk

Martin, yes do the NGC, and that then opens up several options. One route is, following the NGC, to opt straight for Dip/NVQ if time and finances allow, but another option would be to follow up your NGC with a portfolio of other courses at a similar level. What I'm thinking is e.g. the NEBOSH Fire Safety certificate, NEBOSH Construction certificate, maybe the IEMA Associate level course, an auditor's course (such as RoSPA QSA or 18000), Legionella assessors and so on. I know that people have found this type of approach quite helpful in developing their skills. The big thing you will need with all this is a job, for which I wish you success, John
paul reynolds  
#14 Posted : 03 December 2014 12:56:37(UTC)
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paul reynolds

Start with the NEBOSH NGC, then if you have decided you wish to specialise work towards courses that are specific to this area or if you want to cover H&S generally then the previous post is a good start. Good luck with your new career, you will enjoy it ! Honest. Regards PaulR
wstuarth  
#15 Posted : 03 December 2014 14:14:40(UTC)
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wstuarth

Martin As you already seem to have a level 2 qualification in OHS then the IOSH MS is probably useful in terms of updating yourself, however you will get the same update on the NGC course and not spend several hundred pounds for the pleasure. Remember that local colleges generally will not charge VAT, whereas commercial organisations will, so check your local colleges for their prices. Classroom based training is almost definitely the best for you unless you can get some shadowing experience/mentoring from someone already experienced in a professional health and safety role. If you were able to share your geographical location you might also benefit from some local knowledge on training providers what ever route you choose, good luck! Stuart
martin1885  
#16 Posted : 04 December 2014 00:06:46(UTC)
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martin1885

Thanks guys for all your feedback it really is much appreciated wstuarth i'll have a look at my local colleges thanks for the tip I am based in Cheshire Cheers Martin
martin1885  
#17 Posted : 31 December 2014 23:50:20(UTC)
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martin1885

Hello All, Thanks for all the help on this one I decided to go for the Nebosh National General Certificate and start in a few weeks, doing the distance learning option due to a affordability Happy New Year!! Cheers Martin
Phillip Clarke  
#18 Posted : 06 January 2015 18:53:26(UTC)
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Phillip Clarke

As a note of interest, NEBOSH NGC is not the only Level 3 H&S qualification out there that also fulfils the academic requirments of TechIOSH: **The British Safety Council Level 3 Certificate in Occupational Safety and Health **EEF / Oxfod Brooks University Certificate of Credit in H&S Management
martin1885  
#19 Posted : 12 January 2015 23:33:17(UTC)
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martin1885

Phillip Clarke wrote:
As a note of interest, NEBOSH NGC is not the only Level 3 H&S qualification out there that also fulfils the academic requirments of TechIOSH: **The British Safety Council Level 3 Certificate in Occupational Safety and Health **EEF / Oxfod Brooks University Certificate of Credit in H&S Management
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