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Morning
Does anyone know how to set out an OHSAS 18001, internal auditor audit plan?
I have been thrown in the deep end and I can't find any info on this?
Thanks
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Have you had training?
You will need to complete a gap analysis so you know were you are and what you need!
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HI yes I had the Lead auditor 9001 training 4 years ago and Internal !4001 and 18001 passed all courses,however I have had zero experience, the reality of planning an audit is different, I am actually struggling with this.
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The internal audits for 18001 can be set up in a number of ways but I can provide you with an insight into how I do it. I base my audits by area as I find them easier to manage and control. Each internal audit has very similar criteria and contains quotes from the standard in which to audit against etc. "18001 requires the organisation to identify hazards and conduct risk assessments". So in this case risk assessments will need to be identified and audited.
Other criteria included on my audits are accident data, company HS policy, risk assessments, training records, safe working practices, HS procedures the list goes on.
I work for a manufacturing company so although I audit our management system online, there is also hands on work required in the factory checking noticeboards, operator training records, lifting equipment tags, fork lift trucks etc.
I hope this helps.
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Thanks for the information,it is very helpful. I have to set this out in a plan for a 2 day audit, would anyone have an example audit plan they could share with me? Thanks
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It doesn't help at all when you're given the artificial constraint of a 2-day timeline!
Planning and preparation (including initial engagement with key personnel) can take way longer than that - before you commence the audit proper!
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Afternoon All,
Ron - genuine question, why is a two day audit an artificial constraint? If there wasn't a time limit put on it surely the auditor would just keep on going deeper and deeper until it wasn't a sampling exercise but one that checks every line of every document and witnesses every practice.
If we set out the exact process, area or whatever as the objective of the audit then surely its good to set out a time limit? If at the end of the time period there are serious concerns, or it hasn't been able to gather sufficient evidence then that would be a note in the report and a follow up audit scheduled. If the concerns were very serious and or urgent then the follow up audit could be the next day.
I am quite inexperienced at auditing though so would love to here other views.
Regards Steve
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Well what I have done is make a table as follows.
Down the table - the names of the areas / processes to be audited. Across the table - the elements of the standard. Then for each area/process, I tick off which elements of the standard are to be audited on that audit. Making sure that each element is covered at least once.
I wouldn't dream of trying to audit everything everywhere all at once, whether in two days or more.
Timescales for audits do need to be set, I usually allow two hours to conduct the audit (prep, report writing and discussion of findings are on top of that). But there are multiple audits, one per area/process!
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Hi Ron,
as Kate suggested I was talking of a time limit for an individual audit of a specific area, process, task etc. Depending on the scale of the organisation the full plan could be carried out over several years.
Regards Steve
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