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Sapper.D  
#1 Posted : 26 October 2016 08:34:02(UTC)
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Sapper.D

Dear all,

I've been approached to carry out some work for a new company that will basically entail setting up a new safety management system from scratch, including writting associated policies, procedures, safe systems of work etc. This would be my first foray into the world of private work, any advice and guidance would be appreciated in regards to the rates I should look to quote for. Any other help, information and guidance would also be appreciated.

David Bannister  
#2 Posted : 26 October 2016 08:52:13(UTC)
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David Bannister

There have been several threads on a similar topic. If the search facility is working you shoudl be able to get a flavour of previous opinions.

I was advised at the very outset of self-employment never to under-price my work and whilst that is sometimes hard to do as you feel that you have to win the work on price, it often does not matter that you may not be the cheapest option. After all you can buy a car for under a few hundred pounds, but would you trust it to do a good job?

There are consultancies that charge out their staff at £1500 and above and there are clowns doing work for £250.

Be brave. Low price work is no good for the profession.

Ian Bell2  
#3 Posted : 26 October 2016 09:41:47(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Agree with David.

I recently employed an electrician to do some work at my house, he was effectively charging about £400/day or £50/hr

A recent trip to the barbers cost me £13 for maybe 15minutes work.

I don't understand why both agencies/employers etc think h&s bods should work for circa £250/day on a Ltd company basis. I have seen rates for h&s consultants as low as £180 day.

I would say any h&s consultant charging less than £50/hr is underselling himself and the profession.

Its a business not a charity.

walker  
#4 Posted : 26 October 2016 10:33:49(UTC)
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walker

Also depends on the risks involved.

An office full of desk jockeys does not need the expertise that say an asbestos removal company would require.

David Bannister  
#5 Posted : 26 October 2016 11:07:25(UTC)
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David Bannister

Originally Posted by: walker Go to Quoted Post

Also depends on the risks involved.

An office full of desk jockeys does not need the expertise that say an asbestos removal company would require.


Walker, a consultant dermatologist receives payment at the same rate whether they are treating an irritant rash or removing malignant melanoma - the time spent may be different but the rate will be the same. Similarly, an electrician charges an hourly rate whether it's a full factory rewire or fixing a domestic circuit.

The eventual invoice will be different in scale but the expertise employed remains the same. 

gerrysharpe  
#6 Posted : 26 October 2016 11:07:42(UTC)
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gerrysharpe

As i work in Construction i've seen first hand at what cheap rates  does to a profession with a large majority of skilled professions being undercut on sites by east europeans who work for a lot less that what most are charging. The good thing is that as a profession Health & Safety Managers and advisors do not really have this problem.

Therefore people should pay for your experiance and qualifications

walker  
#7 Posted : 26 October 2016 11:19:21(UTC)
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walker

Originally Posted by: David Bannister Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: walker Go to Quoted Post

Also depends on the risks involved.

An office full of desk jockeys does not need the expertise that say an asbestos removal company would require.


Walker, a consultant dermatologist receives payment at the same rate whether they are treating an irritant rash or removing malignant melanoma - the time spent may be different but the rate will be the same. Similarly, an electrician charges an hourly rate whether it's a full factory rewire or fixing a domestic circuit.

The eventual invoice will be different in scale but the expertise employed remains the same. 


Yeh, but the rash could be treated by the pharmicist in Boots

But not the tumour. High level skills are righly higher paid.

Managing high risk environments can't be done by the bod employed to look after DSE.

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