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MattOCon  
#1 Posted : 24 April 2017 22:38:39(UTC)
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MattOCon

Good Evening,

I’m just wondering if anyone has sat this course and what were your thoughts? Any good? worth doing?

 I have some ELCAS credits to use up from my time in the armed forces and been in a Health and Safety role for 5 years now. I'm just looking to build up some qualification’s before eventually taking on my diploma.

 Many thanks,

 Matt

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lorna  
#2 Posted : 26 April 2017 08:26:39(UTC)
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lorna

It souds quite good & I looked into it but ... All the NEBOSH specialist certs (e.g. Fire) seem to require the standard Certifcate first, which I don't have (I'm CMIOSH by cognate degree) so they exclude quite a large group...

I have tried several providers and get nowhere - just the standard response "you need to get the NEBOSH Certificate first" - errr, no thanks.

martynp1000  
#3 Posted : 26 April 2017 20:18:36(UTC)
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martynp1000

Originally Posted by: lorna Go to Quoted Post

It souds quite good & I looked into it but ... All the NEBOSH specialist certs (e.g. Fire) seem to require the standard Certifcate first, which I don't have (I'm CMIOSH by cognate degree) so they exclude quite a large group...

I have tried several providers and get nowhere - just the standard response "you need to get the NEBOSH Certificate first" - errr, no thanks.

Thats interesting - the NEBOSH website makes no mention of the National General Certificate as a pre-requirement and at a single week of study plus a single exam paper and a work based case study this would seem to be a lower level qualification.  The downloadable information leaflet also makes no mention of this being a pre-requisite.

Just over 2 years ago my trade union funded a group of members to undertake this course by classroom learning and they were drawn from a range of backgrounds, some had the TU safety qualification but many had no previous H&S experience at all.

Hope this helps

Martyn

Edited by user 26 April 2017 20:20:05(UTC)  | Reason: typo edits

lorna  
#4 Posted : 27 April 2017 08:40:57(UTC)
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lorna

Thanks martynp1000

I hit the wall a few years ago when I wanted to do the Fire Certificate and jsut kept getting the same answer from the course providers I contacted. Personally I think it's because they don't realise that the NEBOSH route isn't the only way & they don't understand my degree (Environmental Health is so much more than inspecting pub kitchens!). I'm used to it now - I have to explain it every time I submit my CV....

Life, & work, has changed so this new qualification would fit in - & a week would suit me fine (I've had my fill of 2 & 4 year courses).

Angela1973  
#5 Posted : 28 April 2017 09:07:30(UTC)
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Angela1973

I did this certificate a few years ago and really enjoyed doing it. It was good because it covers the softer side of H&S, and really helped me in my role in helping to support occupational health with adjustments and assessments. I was on the course with mostly HR related people, and a few H&S so it was a mix, but I enjoyed the course and found it very useful going forward, so much so, I initiated a lot of changes on the back of doing it.

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SW on 28/04/2017(UTC)
stuart46  
#6 Posted : 28 April 2017 09:45:16(UTC)
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stuart46

Hi all,

I looked into undertaking additional certificate courses last year. It appears that to undertake certain courses you have to complete NGC1 again if you haven't passed it or other qualifiying courses within a 5 year period. NEBOSH have confirmed this to me this morning. It's not their decision apparently, it has been imposed further up the chain. There appears to be no way around it. CPD doesn't count for anything in this case. I hold a level 6 diploma and this still won't allow me to complete additional courses. 

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lorna on 31/05/2017(UTC)
Broomstick63  
#7 Posted : 28 April 2017 10:42:48(UTC)
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Broomstick63

I am currently doing this on line through Sheilds.  It's not my preferred route of learning but suited my needs at the time.  My son has also completed the course with a training provider and found it interesting.  Obviously the distance learning is cheaper than attending a training course.  I find it benefial in the modern world, people working longer coupled with the pressures of life and the working enviironment and expectations of employers.

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SW on 28/04/2017(UTC)
swebster  
#8 Posted : 30 May 2017 16:48:06(UTC)
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swebster

I did mine in 2013 - it was a really good course. If you have other H&S qualifications, some areas are the same, but overall I found it enjoyable and useful and covered a number of new areas to me. I think it's a good qualification to have as it seems at the moment that a lot of companies are recognising the importance of health and wellbeing as part of health and safety so if you have the qualification it does give you another string to your bow! It certainly helped me find a temporary post after being made redundant!! I think it's also a useful qualification for non-safety practitioners like OH and HR. I did it as a taught course as I was lucky that there is a company that runs it locally to me, this was great as we had a really diverse group of people which made for useful and thought provoking discussion.

Teresa Budworth  
#9 Posted : 19 June 2017 13:16:37(UTC)
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Teresa Budworth

The Certificate in fire safety and risk management is made up of two examined units.  NGC1 deals with management of health and safety, FC1 is the technical fire bit.  You have to have achieved NGC1 or the safety management unit of the Diploma in the last 5 years for it to give you an exemption.  That's a rule we have to follow as part of our accreditation with SQA.

BUT, there is nothing stopping anyone from taking just the two fire units :  the exam and the workplace based assessment.  You will still get Unit Certificates showing your achievement.

lorna  
#10 Posted : 20 June 2017 08:24:39(UTC)
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lorna

Unfortunately I can't find anyone willing to let me just do the two fire units or any other NEBOSH qualification without having a NEBOSH certificate .... so I now don't even bother looking at those & look for alternatives. (It seems so daft that even in 2017, alternatives to NEBOSH have to be explained even though I'm CMIOSH...)

chris42  
#11 Posted : 20 June 2017 09:27:16(UTC)
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chris42

Originally Posted by: lorna Go to Quoted Post

Unfortunately I can't find anyone willing to let me just do the two fire units or any other NEBOSH qualification without having a NEBOSH certificate .... so I now don't even bother looking at those & look for alternatives. (It seems so daft that even in 2017, alternatives to NEBOSH have to be explained even though I'm CMIOSH...)

I did the Cert then the Diploma in 2008 and that is not accepted as too old!!! so much for experience, and if NEBOSH or anyone else thinks I'm paying to do the same course twice they can take a long walk off a short pier.

http://www.vulcanfiretraining.co.uk/courses#/

They do a short course then you can progress to fire manager course. Or NEBOSH then fire Manager course 

mmmm lets see

I personnaly don't know if Employers see the Vucan course as equivalent, perhaps others can comment on that.

Sorry MattOCon this is not directly related to your course, but hope still of interest.

Chris

 

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