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freelance safety  
#1 Posted : 11 February 2020 14:33:19(UTC)
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freelance safety

Appreciate any useful advice regarding taking on health and safety freelancers?

Just to place you in the picture, business has got to a stage where I need some assistance on an ad-hoc basis but not at a stage when I can employ anyone at the moment.

 

Ian Bell2  
#2 Posted : 11 February 2020 15:51:25(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Many freelancers/contractors I know are quitting because of the IR35 tax rule changes.

Financial extortion by HMRC

freelance safety  
#3 Posted : 11 February 2020 15:58:52(UTC)
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freelance safety

Maybe it’s due to the high employment, but I’m finding it hard to locate other freelancers on day rates to do any ad-hoc work etc.

Zyggy  
#4 Posted : 11 February 2020 16:08:48(UTC)
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Zyggy

From what I can gather the IR35 tax rule changes only applies to freelancers who work within a limited company structure & it is their employer who has to now decide if they meet the criteria or not. Sole traders are exempt from these changes. You obviously have to be careful on their status as if you are deemed to be employing them, then you would be liable for everything that goes with it, e.g. NI, pension contributions etc.
chris.packham  
#5 Posted : 16 February 2020 17:28:32(UTC)
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chris.packham

If you have an accountant that handles your tax returns, etc. have a word with them. It can be complex and easy to find yourself the wrong side of tax law. Much will depend on the terms and conditions, amount of time they spend, whether they are self-employed and have other clients they are also providing a service for, etc., etc.

freelance safety  
#6 Posted : 16 February 2020 17:37:46(UTC)
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freelance safety

Thanks for all the replies to date.

I’m fully aware of the tax implications as I have my own accountant and I’ve had freelance workers many times before.

The issue for me is the current lack of competent and available people in the market place?

This may of course be caused by the IR35 taxation issues, maybe more people have gone back to full employment?

SNS  
#7 Posted : 16 February 2020 22:23:11(UTC)
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SNS

It may be that people are tailoring their workloads to lifestyle nowadays and don't want any more 'ad-hoc' engagements.

I am lucky enough to be employed PAYE by one employer and do 2 or 3 days a week as the need arises by negotiation.

Mark-W  
#8 Posted : 17 February 2020 09:39:52(UTC)
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Mark-W

Originally Posted by: freelance safety Go to Quoted Post

Appreciate any useful advice regarding taking on health and safety freelancers?

Just to place you in the picture, business has got to a stage where I need some assistance on an ad-hoc basis but not at a stage when I can employ anyone at the moment.

 

Where are you based and in which industry are you operating? This would give consultants on here a good idea if it's worth offering their services

jmaclaughlin  
#9 Posted : 17 February 2020 15:00:31(UTC)
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jmaclaughlin

Most freelancers will be getting 3-5 days a week, for the length of the project.

If you are only offering the odd day here and there, you are looking at someone semi retired or between roles.

Another option is to offer someone mentoring who is new to the industry in return for the admin work you need help with.

Mark-W  
#10 Posted : 17 February 2020 15:09:18(UTC)
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Mark-W

Are you classifying freelancers different to consultants? I class myself as a consultant, I have 5 clients. 1 is a day a week, 3 are 2 days a month with the option of extra days as and when needed and the last 1 is as and when. I think I've lost 1 client but think I have another to replace it but time will tell

On a bad month I work 12 days, good month can be up to 18-20. But I try not to work that many to be honest. I enjoy my downtime after 24yrs in the Army

jmaclaughlin  
#11 Posted : 17 February 2020 15:34:08(UTC)
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jmaclaughlin

Most consultants I know have one big/regular client and once they have there 12days, like yourself put their feet up. Unless you have someone local to you, suspect you are going to struggle.

JohnW  
#12 Posted : 17 February 2020 16:04:17(UTC)
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JohnW

Like others posting here, I work as a consultant with several regular clients, working 1 day or more per month for each, mostly risk assessing, COSHH, toolbox talks, inspections etc. Occasionally I’ve provided longer term 1 or 2 days a week for a year or more, and currently could fit that in.
Roundtuit  
#13 Posted : 17 February 2020 19:49:37(UTC)
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Roundtuit

From your profile the location is Yorkshire - narrow it down a bit and you may get some interest. Clarify the industry and it is even better
russman  
#14 Posted : 22 February 2020 14:07:46(UTC)
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russman

Hi all,

I am looking at taking on freelance Health & Safety work on an ad-hock basis.

I currently work as Rope Access and Height Safety specialist but I am looking at taking on extra day rate work.

I'm certainly interested in what has been said above,

Regards

Russ

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