Hi Zaki

Welcome to the Forums!

I don't the question you have posed has ever been discussed on these Forums before (at least not the way you have asked it).

Perhaps it would help if you gave the readers an idea of why you are asking the question.

So, as example are you considering doing IOSH Managing Safely yourself or thinking of putting some colleagues through the training and might want to discuss the pros and cons of the course content and whether it is better done face to face or by remote learning.

Or you might have recent done IOSH Managing Safely, in which case it would be helpful to hear what you thought of it.

[Not a training course I have ever done. Have helped deliver it but that was many, many years ago and I have seen criticism that the course materials have not been updated in a long time]

Overall IOSH managing safely is poor, very poor.

The slides are about 20 years old.

I am not sure it is pitched  at the right level-  not high enough for   actual managers but too high for a charge hand type level.   

The hazard module is pointless

I don’t like they way they explain risk assessment

Not enough about controls

When we deliver it we use it to guide us where we want to go but rely on material we have gathered over the years. One possibility (quite a 21st century idea), is that IOSH jettison the slides and  just create a basic checklist. You deliver your course, using your materials etc but then submit it to IOSH who confirm that it covers what is required and send you certification and a T-shirt.  

Originally Posted by: A Kurdziel

When we deliver it we use it to guide us where we want to go but rely on material we have gathered over the years. One possibility (quite a 21st century idea), is that IOSH jettison the slides and  just create a basic checklist. You deliver your course, using your materials etc but then submit it to IOSH who confirm that it covers what is required and send you certification and a T-shirt.   

You can insert a nunber of your won slides, to be honest i have never bothered, depending on what the people do (we have very divers activities) i just switch to slides on us once i have have used the IOSH ones to dicsuss the basic principles. So very similar to you A, As Kate says i think its like all courses the real value is in teh trainer (sorry if that sounds big headed)

Originally Posted by: PDarlow

He then questioned why they were undertaking the course if they had H&S already represented. - this was 3 managers and 3 supervisors from my company.

Needless to say (and I wont mention the provider), I will not use their services again.

Difficult to understand what they meant, but if im doing training for outside companies the first thing i ask for is copys of safety policys and an undertsanding of what that company expects form the people that are attending, is it just as you say an appreciation of the legislation etc, or is more specific, so i may have asked a similar question but hopefuly in a better way.  I have had outside companies do training for my collegues in the past where i dont have the compitancy to do myself, and yes i have said either - dont come back or in some cases never send that individual trainer again. 

Edited by user 07 July 2023 10:11:51(UTC)  | Reason: Dyslexia and eye surgery is not great for spelling!

AK, what you describe is exactly the rationale behind wanting to send managers and supervisors on the course. When you have the tutor questioning the relevance of managers and supervisors being on the course in the first instance is almost the antithesis of what we hoped they would gain from it.

Even now, some managers at my site can't quite grasp the concept that they have H&S responsibilities for their teams which is not very helpful when trying to raise the profile and improve the safety culture. I trust this is a common barrier that a fair few safety professional encounter in their career.

Originally Posted by: Zaki Masood

Hello Everyone,

Let's discuss the IOSH Managing Safely certification in this Career Forum.

Share your thoughts, experiences, and questions related to this certification. It's a great opportunity to learn from each other and enhance our career prospects in occupational safety and health.

Looking forward to your contributions!

Zaki Masood

I'm excited to join this discussion about the IOSH Managing Safely certification. I recently completed the certification, and I must say it has been a valuable experience for my career in occupational safety and health.

The course provided me with a comprehensive understanding of various safety management principles and techniques. It covered a wide range of topics, including risk assessment, incident investigation, and legal compliance, which are crucial in ensuring a safe working environment.

The best part was the practical approach of the course, which allowed me to apply the knowledge directly to real-life scenarios. The case studies and group discussions were particularly insightful, as they provided a platform to learn from the experiences of fellow professionals in the field.

I would love to hear about your experiences with the IOSH Managing Safely certification or any questions you may have. Let's use this forum to share our insights and help each other grow in our safety and health careers.

Looking forward to your contributions!