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Steve 40  
#1 Posted : 08 April 2025 08:40:13(UTC)
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Steve 40

Hi All,

We have several raw materials that we use as part of our food manufacturing process that under section 2 of the SDS, are not classified as dangerous/hazardous. Would a COSHH risk assessment still be required?

HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 08 April 2025 09:01:55(UTC)
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HSSnail

It depends. Flour is a known asmergen (sorry spell check failed) so the HSE had a big project a few years ago you will never get a SDS for it - its a risk asessment by any other name. COSHH just gives you a little more factors to consider.

There are lots of other products covered by other legislation - Beuty Safet Product regs (Forget date) which takes them out of CHiP - but if you look at furniture die and hair die, apart for setting agent are very similar chemicaly.

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Steve 40 on 09/04/2025(UTC)
peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 08 April 2025 10:05:50(UTC)
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peter gotch

Morning Steve 40.

As HSSnail indicates there are lots of substances hazardous to health within the definition of that term which you will not usually find an SDS for.

I have seen an SDS for dihydrogen oxide advocating the use of water in the event of inadvertent contact. 

Whether that SDS was produced as a joke or not is unclear but if you haven't already sussed dihydrogen oxide (formulation H2O - note the 2 should be in subscript but this platform doesn't do subscript) is water which is responsible for a huge proportion of skin disorders as a result of workplace exposure. 

Then there are all the byproducts of processes, so that even if the input materials are chemically inactive, what is produced during wo rk may be nasty. Example, burning off paint.

....and all those things such as the asthmagens that HSSnail mentioned.

Whether you should do a specific COSHH assessment is a matter of judgement. Perhaps you can adequately cover the COSHH issues in a general risk assessment. Nothing in COSHH says that a COSHH assessment has be entitled "COSHH assessment".

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A Kurdziel on 08/04/2025(UTC), Steve 40 on 09/04/2025(UTC)
antbruce001  
#4 Posted : 08 April 2025 12:25:50(UTC)
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antbruce001

Steve,

If the raw materials are truly not hazardous to health, then there is no requirement to undertake COSHH-based risk assessments.

So, the real question is: how do you know they are not hazardous to health—particularly in a food industry setting? In many cases, suppliers of food-grade raw materials are not required to label packaging or provide Safety Data Sheets (SDS), even if the materials present a health hazard, as food products are exempt from CLP (Classification, Labelling and Packaging) regulations.

However, if an SDS is provided, it must be accurate. If the SDS states that the material is not classified as hazardous under CLP, then a COSHH assessment may not be necessary. That said, if the material is a dust or powder, you must remember that all dusts are considered potentially harmful to health, and Workplace Exposure Limits (WELs) exist for general dusts. In such cases, COSHH assessments are required, regardless of the SDS classification. You should also consider whether biological risks are present, depending on the material.

If no SDS is provided, you are still required to undertake suitable research to determine whether the substance is known to be hazardous to health. If it is, you must identify the potential acute and chronic health effects, as well as the routes of entry. This information must then be used to complete appropriate COSHH assessments.

Hope it helps.

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Steve 40 on 09/04/2025(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 08 April 2025 13:04:19(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

The SDS describes the hazardous nature of various products( and as people have pointed out not all products require an SDS)  COSHH is about managing the risk posed by exposure to hazardous substance irrespective anything in the SDS. The flour example is a good one. Flour is a foodstuff and as such does require an SDS to be provided but if flour is being used on a  large scale, such as a commercial bread making operation it creates a risk to people who might be exposed to flour dust.  COSH expects the employer to identify and manage that risk. Too many people that that COSHH is just about looking up the SDS and transcribing the relevant bits onto the COSHH form.  That is not a risk assessment. 

So what you need to do is:

  • Look at the hazardous  nature of the substances, with the SDS being the starting point
  • Look at the form that the substance take; is it a fine respirable dust-note in COSHH Reg there is definition of “substance hazardous to health”  which states that at (d) that any inhalable or respirable dust might be hazardous substance irrespective of what it consists of.  
  • Ask does the process you are using ( all risk assessment relate to a process)  create and spread this dust
  • How many people are exposed to this has
  • How often does this exposure happen and how long for
  • What controls do you use-noting the hierarchy of controls with PPE at the bottom and are they effective at reducing the exposure

That’s what you need in your COSHH risk assessment.

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Steve 40 on 09/04/2025(UTC)
Holliday42333  
#6 Posted : 08 April 2025 14:50:37(UTC)
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Holliday42333

This is a great discussion and an issue I have been faced with many, many times.

To be honest I don’t think there is a crystal clear answer.

A long time ago working in a laboratory, like Perter alluded to, there was an MSDS for reagent (pure) water that stated ‘fatal by ingestion’, because it is if you drink enough of it.

All liquid hand soaps SDSs, quite correctly, state they are an Irritant and skin defatting agent and to wear impervious gloves to prevent skin contact and wash with copious amounts of water if skin exposure occurs.  Do you need to complete a COSHH Assessment to cover soap exposure at hand washing sinks?

The relationship between CHiP and COSHH just doesn’t work for lots of scenarios.

What I can say is that in the period I worked in food there was no MSDS (it was MSDS at the time) for ground spices however we/I completed a COSHH Assessment and LEV was a control measure as well as 6monthly lung function health surveillance for all exposed operatives.  There was a COSHH assessment for exposure to liquid soap at hand washing stations in the factory areas but not for the offices.

On balance I would say that if a substance is specifically not classified as hazardous to health then a COSHH Assessment is not required.  As the name suggests COSHH is for substances that ARE hazardous to health.

As a side note, a substance may be classified a ‘Flammable’ or ‘Oxidising’ on the SDS but this doesn’t have a direct link to COSHH.  Just another common anomaly between Chip and COSHH.

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Steve 40 on 09/04/2025(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 08 April 2025 15:26:27(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I once got someone to do a COSHH risk assessment for sprinkling mustard powder(about 500 g at a time)  onto grass  to force earthworms to the surface. The mustard powder came from a supermarket in a  yellow tin and surprise surprise there was no SDS with it, but the main ingredient was wheat flour, followed by colorants   and mustard which contains Allyl isothiocyanate. If you were to buy pure Allyl isothiocyanate it would come with an SDS because it is no longer a food stuff just a nasty chemical(read the SDS it is quite scary!) . So because rather than  putting it on their sausages they were scattering it about I suggested they do the COSHH risk assessment cos it might have ended in their eyes or being breathed in.  The optimal solution was goggles and a disposable face mask.    

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peter gotch on 08/04/2025(UTC), Steve 40 on 09/04/2025(UTC)
Steve 40  
#8 Posted : 09 April 2025 08:32:29(UTC)
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Steve 40

All great replies, thanks people!

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peter gotch on 09/04/2025(UTC)
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