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karoloydi  
#1 Posted : 30 August 2025 06:27:53(UTC)
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karoloydi

I often see that contractors do not include mobile scaffold towers in their temporary works register.

By the definition of temporary works in BS5795-1, I think it's clear that they should be:

Temporary works can be described as providing an “engineered solution” that is used to support or protect either an existing structure or the permanent works during construction, or to support an item of plant or equipment, or the vertical sides or side-slopes of an excavation during construction operations on site or to provide access.

Also on the following section:

This description of temporary works includes, but is not limited to:

f) providing a safe platform for work activity on land or water (e.g. jetty, scaffolding, edge protection or towers);

What are your thoughts? Is there any reason why they don't include them on the temporary works register? In my opinion they should.

Edited by user 30 August 2025 06:46:31(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

peter gotch  
#2 Posted : 30 August 2025 17:27:14(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Karoloydi

I think there is a risk that one can interpret the BS on Temporary Works to have a scope much wider than that which its authors had in mind.

Let’s start by assuming that this is in relation to any construction project and so CDM applies.

In the interpretation CDM defines a “structure”:

“structure” means—

  1. any building etc etc etc etc,;
  2. any structure similar to anything specified in paragraph (a);
  3. any formwork, falsework, scaffold or other structure designed or used to provide support or means of access during construction work, and any reference to a structure includes part of a structure

From this you could conclude that a stepladder is a “structure” of a nature such that you might consider that the scope of the BS on Temporary Works extends to a stepladder.

However, the rationale for the BS was that many a temporary structure had been collapsing causing harm either due to the collapse of the structure itself and/or what it was there to provide temporary support to.

So, the BS then calls for a process that includes for Permits to

  1. Load
  2. Unload

HSE talks about “Temporary Works” being “engineered” solutions.

HSE also published a Guidance Note GS15 decades ago which advised on precautions for “General Access Scaffolds”. This was heavily caveated to say that more thinking was needed if there were reasons why a scaffold would need to be “designed”, perhaps to work out what additional bracing etc would be needed for e.g. accommodating a lifting hoist that would be incorporated into a scaffold.

Without specifically mentioning “Temporary Works” let alone the BS on these CDM continues with comment about structural stability in Part 4 added to CDM in 2007 mostly as a consolidation of what had previously been in the Construction (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1996 (which were a consolidation of parts of the Construction Regulations 1961 and 1966):

So Regulation 19 says:

  1. All practicable steps must be taken, where necessary to prevent danger to any person, to ensure that any new or existing structure does not collapse if, due to the carrying out of construction work, it—
  1. may become unstable; or
  2. is in a temporary state of weakness or instability.  
  1. Any buttress, temporary support or temporary structure must—
  1. be of such design and installed and maintained so as to withstand any foreseeable loads which may be imposed on it;
  2. and only be used for the purposes for which it was designed, and installed and is maintained.  
  1. A structure must not be so loaded as to render it unsafe to any person. 

Note that the duty under Reg 19(1) is to do what is “practicable” rather than what is e.g. “reasonably practicable”. Regs 19(2) and 19(3) don’t even have the qualification of “practicable”, so in effect set so called “strict liability” duties.

To some extent these legal niceties DO support the argument that more “structures” should be considered to be Temporary Works than might usually be the norm.

Nevertheless Regulation 19 does NOT specify how compliance will be achieved.

If a “structure” is a “General Access Scaffold”, lightweight tower scaffold, or stepladder which does NOT need any specialist competence (other than that of an e.g. ticketed scaffolder, PASMA trained tower erector/dismantler, or experienced ladder user) what would be the benefit of adding all these means of access but not complex loading on to the Temporary Works Register?

If the information that comes with a tower scaffold says that its maximum load is say 750kg and someone chooses to put 1.5 tonnes on it and it collapses, then clearly it is going to be very difficult to defend a prosecution taken under Regulation 19!

However, would a Permit to Load that says “No more than 750kg to be applied” make any difference to what happens on site – once that Permit has been signed off?

Would the e.g. painter need a new Permit to Load every time they move a tower from location A to nearby location B? If so will they be LESS likely (when appropriate) to bother to take down the top half of the scaffold before rolling it from A to B?

Some supervision will be required to check that the painter plays by the rules and equally that the brickies don’t decide to use the tower for their work involving much heavier loading!

I think there is a danger that like demanding Permits to Work for this, that and everything, if too many access “structures” (perhaps with an element of relatively light loading) are deemed to be within the scope of a Temporary Works Register the result could be that TW management becomes a tick box exercise, rather than something where people think VERY carefully about the Temporary Works that pose potentially catastrophic risks.

……and imagine the Contractor who might have waited until the Work at Height Regulations 2005, complete with a requirement to apply the “General Principles of Prevention” before looking closely at why painters had been routinely defaulting to using stepladders (and other ladders) when often inherently safer means of access such as the humble lightweight tower were reasonably practicable.

If you were to include the towers (but not the ladders) in your Temporary Works Register, would the likely outcome be that the painters will revert to their old ways AND that their supervisors will turn a blind eye as that TW Register is just so much hassle?!?!

 

stevedm  
#3 Posted : 05 September 2025 10:33:58(UTC)
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stevedm

I think Peter makes some very good points and I admit no construction expertise, other than claims review...I only offer some additions views on my observations:

My view: By a strict reading of BS 5975, yes – mobile scaffold towers should be considered temporary works. In practice, contractors sometimes exclude them because they’re seen as “standard kit” managed under WAHR and PASMA rather than via the TW register. The safest position is to include them (at least by category) in the TW register, with a clear statement of how they are controlled. That way you remove ambiguity and align fully with BS 5975.

Why They Should Be Included

Despite the above, there are good reasons to include them in the register:

  • Clarity and compliance – BS 5975 explicitly includes towers.
  • Consistency – avoids confusion between scaffold types (tube-and-fitting scaffold is always on the TW register; omitting towers can be inconsistent).
  • Accountability – ensures a competent person checks assembly, stability (outriggers, ties), and ground conditions.
  • Prevention of misuse – towers are a frequent source of falls and incidents, so formal oversight reinforces safety culture.

Pragmatic Approach

What some I have seen some organisations do:

  • Differentiate by complexity
    • Standard, off-the-shelf mobile towers  -  managed through work equipment procedures, inspections, and PASMA-trained users.
    • Non-standard or unusual configurations (linked towers, unusual loading, used as edge protection, or on water/uneven ground) - added to the temporary works register.
  • Cross-reference systems
    • Even if not logged as TW, the safety management system should ensure pre-use checks, weekly inspections, and records (in line with WAHR Reg.12).

Praveen ravada  
#4 Posted : 23 September 2025 10:24:22(UTC)
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Praveen ravada

I agree they should be included. Mobile scaffold towers meet the BS5975-1 definition of temporary works as they provide a safe working platform. Often contractors treat them as standard equipment and rely only on tagging systems, but including them in the register would improve accountability and safety oversight

toe  
#5 Posted : 27 September 2025 14:06:53(UTC)
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toe

I have audited 100s of Temporary Works (TW) registers in my time and have never seen mobile towers on them. Not to say it’s right or wrong.

If we take the premise of the OP (and others) where there is a belief that a TW provides a safe platform for work activity, this will mean every working podium, mobile elevated work platforms, cherry pickers, podium stepladders, hop up, etc, would need to be included on the register. And subsequently have controls such as design briefs, designs, permits, etc, for their use.

For what it’s worth, putting this stuff on the register will just clog it up and may distract from the real danger of high-risk TW activity that needs to be critically managed. To be clear, I’m not saying that mobile platforms don’t present risks or don’t need to be managed just not through the TW process.

Hooper  
#6 Posted : 29 September 2025 04:13:24(UTC)
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Hooper

Originally Posted by: karoloydi Go to Quoted Post

I often see that contractors do not include mobile scaffold towers in their temporary works register.

By the definition of temporary works in BS5795-1, I think it's clear that they should be:

Temporary works can be described as providing an “engineered solution” that is used to support or protect either an existing structure or the permanent works during construction, or to support an item of plant or equipment, or the vertical sides or side-slopes of an excavation during construction operations on site or to provide access.

Also on the following section:

This description of temporary works includes, but is not limited to:

f) providing a safe platform block blast for work activity on land or water (e.g. jetty, scaffolding, edge protection or towers);

What are your thoughts? Is there any reason why they don't include them on the temporary works register? In my opinion they should.

By the definition in BS5975-1, mobile scaffold towers clearly fall under temporary works, especially as they provide a safe platform for work. The likely reason they're often excluded is that some contractors see them as standard, low-risk equipment rather than engineered solutions.

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