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On the horizon of gaining teir one contracts i am faced with producing a Permit To Work System as part of the SSOW. I,m accutley aware that multiple permits issued over time on site can become frustrating for some and lead to a paper trail culture whereby the permit is just handed out as such. My first question is > creating a permit format thats robust, covering all essential guidance from HSG250 but user freindly, also does anyone use software for permits? second question >Has anyone ever come across or used an intergrated permit format, by where the one permit can cover several hazardous activities? i relalise this may have some negatives but for me the idea and initial draft has had some positive feedback
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Hi Thomas Your thread has been read lots of times but without reply so I will try to get the ball moving. So, the first question that I think you need to consider is WHY you are tasked with doing this? Is it about ticking a box for a potential Tier 1 Contractor or are you doing this for good reason - and if the latter, what types of work do you want to cover and WHY? You have already set out some of the reasons why PTWs can be overkill and counterproductive! As example if someone was sending me into a live substation I would expect this to be under very strict controla and probably a PTW would be a sensible component of those. However, since I do not have appropriate qualifications and experience, it's more likely that the simple precaution is to tell me NOT to enter the substation end of. Do the people who work day after day in HV envirionments need PTWs? Probably usually NOT as they work to established protocols that include for lots of precautions and are all subject to stringent training etc AND of course close supervision for those learning their trade.
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Sorry for the delay Peter...I had to actually do some work yesterday! :) I have faced the same problem countless times on the PTW system over the past 30 years and the same arguments are true...however I have this the best approach My suggestion: Build a core PTW format aligned with HSG250 (paper or digital). Add modular hazard-specific appendices (e.g. confined space, hot work, electrical). These only activate when relevant. I also attached supporting certificates of isolation etc. If you go digital, software can auto-attach the correct modules when the hazard is selected. Keep it simple enough that supervisors want to use it, but robust enough that it will stand up to audit by HSE or a client.
Hope this helps
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