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RayRapp  
#41 Posted : 25 March 2015 15:38:54(UTC)
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RayRapp

How did post-nominals mutate into Wikipedia?
JohnW  
#42 Posted : 25 March 2015 16:57:54(UTC)
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JohnW

RayRapp wrote:
How did post-nominals mutate into Wikipedia?



Ray, we couldn't wait till Friday.
Graham Bullough  
#43 Posted : 25 March 2015 21:27:47(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Have just had a look at the Wikipedia page I quoted and saw that the errors I mentioned at #37 have been corrected - so thanks to whoever did so. Also, having learned from helpful responses about how easy it is to correct errors/make alterations to information on Wikipedia I think I'm more wary now about the reliability of such information. Presumably, for example, there's nothing to stop anyone (either out of ignorance or malevolence) from altering references to IOSH so that it's cited as an institute rather than an institution. Such erroneous information would persist until a suitably knowledgeable person recognised the error and then bothered to correct it.

Also, for some reason which I can't fathom, the URL I included at #37 for Wikipedia's page about UK post-nominal letters mutated after posting into one which linked to a page about post-nominal letters worldwide, starting with Antigua and Barbuda. :-( As an experiment I'll try posting the UK version again, i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/...of_post-nominal_letters_(United_Kingdom) and see what happens.

p.s. JohnW - your mathematical background explained your earlier allusion to polynomials. On a jocular note, I was going to ask if poly-nominals are about names for parrots, but think I'd better desist! :-)
stonecold  
#44 Posted : 26 March 2015 05:24:16(UTC)
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stonecold

Why do some people consider it snobbery to use Post Noms? I can use DipNEBOSH (although i rarely have the chance too). I sweated blood and tears to pass the diploma so surely using the post noms is one way of showing how hard you have worked to get where you are.

Should they not be something to be proud of? As after all they dont come easy do they?
Fedora  
#45 Posted : 26 March 2015 07:00:11(UTC)
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Fedora

stonecold wrote:
Why do some people consider it snobbery to use Post Noms? I can use DipNEBOSH (although i rarely have the chance too). I sweated blood and tears to pass the diploma so surely using the post noms is one way of showing how hard you have worked to get where you are.

Should they not be something to be proud of? As after all they dont come easy do they?


I have to agree with that, having had to study via distance learning while working a 60 hr week and entirely self-funded.
I've sweated through all my quals and paid top whack, so I will definitely be putting them after my name, I know what I went through to get them, plus it carries more weight with peers and clients (not to mention attracting job offers!).

John (soon to be BSc Hons).
hilary  
#46 Posted : 26 March 2015 08:30:55(UTC)
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hilary

I use mine and proud of it.

I started training from nothing when my kids were 6 months and 3 years respectively and I was working full time. I became MIOSH 5.5 years later in 2002 (before Chartered status) when my kids were 6 and 9 respectively! It was incredibly hard work so why wouldn't I show what I've achieved?
JohnW  
#47 Posted : 26 March 2015 08:40:02(UTC)
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JohnW

Graham Bullough wrote:
having learned from helpful responses about how easy it is to correct errors/make alterations to information on Wikipedia I think I'm more wary now about the reliability of such information


Graham, I would hope that if anything I/we put on a wiki page later gets edited then we would get an e-mail alert. I've looked over the few contributions I have made to music-related pages and they are still there. You can View History for any wiki page and check who/when changes were made.
kenty  
#48 Posted : 26 March 2015 08:48:26(UTC)
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kenty

When i first started out in safety a number of years ago, i found that using post nominals was very helpful as a means of showing competence since my age was often used against me.

I still remember going on a construction site & seeing a future darwin award winner, and being told "I've been doing this since before you were born".

As i have gotten older i find that my views are more accepted and the need for using letters after my name has deminished, including dropping the job title.
John M  
#49 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:58:03(UTC)
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John M

Almost everyone has a degree or diploma these days. The safety bods holding either a BSc, diploma or certificate are so numerous (more safety bods than fire fighters in the UK) that adding perceived snobbish post nominals is utterly naff. I have never used nor want to use such ridiculous opinons of importance. A safety body is just that a safety bod - no more important than a hairdresser offering her services. A persons fine work reputation will always trump those with a string of pns who can't do the job! On this project we have many of the latter!

And btw I have two degrees entitling me to use pn MA and MM. Nebosh free! Nothing on my cards or letter heads. Never had anyone ask what "letters" I might have.

Jon
JohnW  
#50 Posted : 26 March 2015 10:02:30(UTC)
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JohnW

Good luck with that JohnM

As I said above, as a sole-trader consultant, my polynominals (plus a reference to my NEBOSH cert) on my business card and on my website get me enquiries from potential clients, and that's the important thing.
JohnW  
#51 Posted : 26 March 2015 10:03:49(UTC)
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JohnW

aaarghh :o)
JohnW  
#52 Posted : 26 March 2015 10:04:21(UTC)
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JohnW

Good luck with that JohnM

As I said above, as a sole-trader consultant, my post nominals (plus a reference to my NEBOSH cert) on my business card and on my website get me enquiries from potential clients, and that's the important thing.
A Kurdziel  
#53 Posted : 26 March 2015 10:08:54(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

stonecold wrote:
Why do some people consider it snobbery to use Post Noms? I can use DipNEBOSH (although i rarely have the chance too). I sweated blood and tears to pass the diploma so surely using the post noms is one way of showing how hard you have worked to get where you are.

Should they not be something to be proud of? As after all they dont come easy do they?


Having sweated to get my Diploma and my CMIOSH I decided to put the certificates up on the wall behind along with my other qualifications. My next “customer” came in and looked at the wall of paper said “Ooh, they look just like the certificates up in my hairdressers!”
They soon came down after that!

JohnW  
#54 Posted : 26 March 2015 10:30:45(UTC)
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JohnW

A Kurdziel,

I've always said I should not be swayed by other's ignorance :o)
Nikki-Napo  
#55 Posted : 26 March 2015 15:06:33(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

stonecold wrote:
Why do some people consider it snobbery to use Post Noms? I can use DipNEBOSH (although i rarely have the chance too). I sweated blood and tears to pass the diploma so surely using the post noms is one way of showing how hard you have worked to get where you are.

Should they not be something to be proud of? As after all they dont come easy do they?


I agree with you.

I'm very proud of mine. I also worked damned hard for my qualifications, and paid for them out of my own pocket. I'm *still* hopeful that this determination will lead me into a decent salaried position.
DP  
#56 Posted : 26 March 2015 17:23:14(UTC)
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DP

I've used them in the past not anymore - I fully understand the posters where pride is stated gaining them. The Qualifications themselves not the RSP, MIOSH & CMIOSH. This is just the club you get in at the end of the journey, should you wish to join!

People should be very proud of the studies they have undertaken, IMO prouder than joining the club bit.

On reflection and stirred by the post I think is because Im older and probably simply not as enthusiastic for them!!

I do recall fondly the pride in gaining the many qualification I have taken on this journey
SHV  
#57 Posted : 26 March 2015 17:35:16(UTC)
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SHV

Post Nominal only work some times, I agree with John M , almost every one has diploma and degree this days


SHV
firesafety101  
#58 Posted : 26 March 2015 18:02:47(UTC)
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firesafety101

Just wondering how long people have been CMIOSH?

My certificate is dated 17th November 2005.
hilary  
#59 Posted : 27 March 2015 06:55:38(UTC)
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hilary

Mine is July 2006
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