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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 24 June 2015 17:05:23(UTC)
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firesafety101

There are various different requirements/recommendations for storing the above but would cylinders that are kept in an engineering workshop and secured in a trolley, connected as per they are used, be considered as Stored?

IMO they cannot as they contain oxygen and propane or acetylene without the necessary separation between the different gases?


ExDeeps  
#2 Posted : 24 June 2015 17:18:42(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Short answer, yes (up to a point)

You're right, but consider the risks if someone was continuously removing the hoses etc every day and replacing them next day - wear and tear on fastenings and potential leaks make it impractical unless you have a very understanding and well funded income stream

Just a though,

Jim
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 24 June 2015 17:29:29(UTC)
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firesafety101

ExDeeps, thanks, they will remain connected at the end of the day ready for use the following day.

jay  
#4 Posted : 24 June 2015 17:59:05(UTC)
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jay

Refer to page 22 of 43 in the HSE Guidance, "The safe use of compressed gases in Welding, flame cutting and allied processes", under the heading, "Cylinders in use"

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/hsg139.pdf

Para 63
Cylinders connected for use
Cylinders ready for use and connected to equipment may be kept inside a workroom. A spare cylinder of fuel gas and oxygen may also be kept there. Both the connected and the spare cylinders should be securely mounted in wheeled trolleys or safely fixed against a wall or otherwise prevented from falling over. They should be in a well ventilated area within the workroom and well away from any combustible materials.
firesafety101  
#5 Posted : 24 June 2015 18:40:40(UTC)
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firesafety101

Jay, thanks for that information, just what I wanted.
stevedm  
#6 Posted : 25 June 2015 06:10:47(UTC)
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stevedm

http://www.bcga.co.uk/pa...nical_information_sheets

There is also a 'model risk assessment' from the BCGA TIS 15.
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