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Russ1977  
#1 Posted : 28 July 2015 10:18:51(UTC)
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Russ1977

Good morning all,

I have been out of work since the back end of last year, and whilst I can assure that I have been trying my hardest, I am just having no luck finding employment.
I have tried every avenue I can think of, agencies, friends, writing to companies on the "off chance", LinkedIn, press etc and while I have secured a couple of interviews I have been unsuccessful.

I worked continuously in H&S for the best part of 7 years, am Grad IOSH and have a quite varied work experience in terms of the environments in which I have worked. This is the longest break I've had in employment and its really disheartening.

One of the major draw backs is not driving, although that in itself is a catch 22, as I was taking my lessons and was driving to a decent standard, but had to stop when I fell out of work.
Being that I intend on working in London and its surrounding areas I don't feel that the driving issue is a draw back as its far easier and quicker to use the tube/public transport to get about.

Was just wondering if anyone had any advice in terms of avenues that I could go down to find a job.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Russ
Ali Sooltan  
#2 Posted : 28 July 2015 13:30:29(UTC)
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Ali Sooltan

Russ, you seemed to have applied through the normal routes we all use, but have you tried shp4jobs, Total jobs and Indeed jobs? Between them they must have 1000's jobs in H&S.
Ian Bell  
#3 Posted : 28 July 2015 13:40:22(UTC)
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Ian Bell

However, you will also probably find the same job advertised on many recruitment/job websites.

i.e. 10 Safety manager adverts, in reality just one job.

Also watch for the trick where the same job is advertised on different websites with different salaries indicated.

Rule 1 for recruitment - don't trust recruitment people. They want you at the lowest price!!
chris42  
#4 Posted : 28 July 2015 17:11:54(UTC)
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chris42

Been there done that not nice

What H&S industry sector were you in ?

Chris
jay  
#5 Posted : 28 July 2015 17:55:00(UTC)
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jay

Russ, I empathise with you, especially wrt driving situation. When I started out with a local authority, my first job in safety in 1994, having a driving license was a requirement, but I has a supportive employer who permitted me to use any means of private motorised transport. I opted to use a "small motorcycle-125 cc" as it only required a CBT on my provisional license, which was valid for 2 years. I eventually passed the driving test in 1996! It is strange that having a driving license is considered as an essential requirement that is not properly reviewed, even if in some jobs, using public transport may be quicker/more efficient!
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 30 July 2015 07:25:44(UTC)
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bob youel

all I can advise is that U take note of the advice given by others herein and keep plugging away doing what U can to move on and unfortunately driving is an expected norm these days irrespective of other things so U must get a licence and take any job that U can in any sector until the appropriate one comes along as gaps in CV's are looked down upon unless U are a university bod

U sound like U have many plus's e.g. U are not 60 plus [as I have found that ageism is the norm also] so as I have said keep plugging away

best of luck
A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 31 July 2015 12:30:07(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Russ1977
I am in similar situation no local jobs and I don't drive...
best of luck mate
chris42  
#8 Posted : 31 July 2015 13:37:13(UTC)
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chris42

I asked about what industries to give you the opportunity to list some of your experience on here - you never know.

Also industries like construction where people move about, there is an opportunity to network with past colleagues ( you may do, but you only noted friends and Linked in etc). Even if its just the heads up a new facility is in your area. People don't build new premises then take over and then think right I guess we need a couple of employees. Company's prosecuted in your area who may need some H&S advice ???

The ability to drive would be very helpful, so don't dismiss it.

All the best
Chris
Ali Sooltan  
#9 Posted : 31 July 2015 14:09:55(UTC)
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Ali Sooltan

Russ,
Good advice given here, but don't tar all the agencies with the same brush ! Several of my friends have got great jobs as a result of agencies. Like all professions there are good and bad - H&S Consultants are no exceptions.
biker1  
#10 Posted : 03 August 2015 09:31:21(UTC)
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biker1

Russ, I sympathise, I was out of work for over half a year a while back. I applied for 125 jobs before I got the one I now have. I was registered with 8 agencies, who got me a handful of interviews. Ironically, the job I now have I got from applying personally, not through one of the agencies. Bear in mind that agencies charge a fee to the employing company, who then have to find this in addition to the salary of the person they take on, so employers would probably prefer people to apply personally, and save money.

The recession a few years back, which I'm not convinced we're over yet, caused a difference in the job market. Back in the day, it was possible to break into a new industry, in fact employers often encouraged this to bring new blood in. In the last recession, all of this changed, and employers could pick and choose those who had relevant experience, and did so. It thus became extremely difficult, nay almost impossible, to break into a new industry. You were then forced to apply for jobs in the industry you had worked in, but then if such positions were available you probably wouldn't be out of work in the first place. A real Catch 22 situation.

I can only reiterate what others have said - keep plugging away. Use agencies when you can (they can often find temporary contract work to tide you over, and once you're in the door somewhere this could lead to a more permanent position), get advice on your CV, get some good references if you can, and keep applying. It is soul destroying, but something will eventually come up.
chris42  
#11 Posted : 03 August 2015 09:43:28(UTC)
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chris42

The company I currently work for will not employ anyone via an agency, but then finding out they have a job is not that easy.
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