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#1 Posted : 23 April 2017 11:08:36(UTC)
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I have the follwing question and I am absolutely stuck. It's from the element entitled: Knowing how to identify, assess and control health and safety risks.

The question is: 

Describe external factors influencing the identification of health and safety hazards, including:

(4.3 b)   tolerability/acceptability of risk

I think of UK and EU as external factors but other than that, I am stumped.  Can anyone help?

Once I have a starting point, I'll be fine. 

Many thanks in advance.

#2 Posted : 23 April 2017 19:53:02(UTC)
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- Manufacturers instructions

- Trade unions

- Industry bodies

- Local authorities

- HSE ACOPS / Guidance

- Financial Reporting Council - "The Code"

- Public perception 

- Recent incidents

- Social media

hope that helps?

Edited by user 23 April 2017 19:53:51(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 25 April 2017 12:13:08(UTC)
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peter gotch


I'd start with HSE's Reducing Risks, Protecting People - google search for R2P2 will bring it up

+ DfT Values for Preventing a Fatality (VPF) or various categories of Injury (VPI)

then contextualise as regards what is reasonably practicable. Compare judgments in Edwards v National Coal Board and Marshall v Gotham.

If you follow Edwards v NCB you would spend a lot more money than if you apply Marshall v Gotham.

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wendyn on 25/04/2017(UTC)
#4 Posted : 08 May 2017 09:07:58(UTC)
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My interpretation of this could be that this would include factors such as:

Inadequate or incorrect information from suppliers, particularly the inadequacy of information on chemical hazards on the safety data sheet. 

Chronicity - i.e. the fact that the effect of exposure to chemical hazards will often not be immediately apparent, but may only manifest itself after a long time, possibly many years. Physical accidents tend to be acute, i.e. the effect is noticeable quickly, whereas chemical exposures are frequently chronic and often not confined to a single exposure, nor a single chemical. 

Errors and omissions in some 'official' guidance. Believe me, in my field (skin in the working environment), it is there.

Just a few thoughts for starters. If you want more feel free to contact me by PM


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samad on 30/06/2017(UTC)
#5 Posted : 28 June 2017 13:27:26(UTC)
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I would also do some research on societal acceptance of risk and how society tolerates risk.  For example the lucky to get away with it -v- the unlucky to get caught mindset.  Also think about how people challenge acceptance and tolerability - a good example would be attitudes in the construction industry which have changed considerably in recent years.  People are not so ready to accept poor standards but what about when it is somebody else's risk?

A Kurdziel  
#6 Posted : 11 July 2017 15:52:25(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

This is question about what drives hazard and risk perception.

So you should be looking at what causes people to ignore certain hazards such as the chemical hazards that have been mentioned already. Some hazards are not regarded as obvious until something happens and they become flavour of the month and everybody is running around trying to deal with them as a priority.


  •  the Daily Mail and other media downplaying H&S
  • The media frenzy following an accident
  • Pressure from the unions to “do something about…”
  • Pressure from business leaders to “cut red tape” ,”apply common sense”, “make us competitive on the world stage” etc


At least that’s what I think

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