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stuart46  
#1 Posted : 30 January 2018 15:57:28(UTC)
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stuart46

Hi all,

Not having had much experience with CDM thus far, would a metal/glass/wooden room on a mezzanine inside an existing building fall under CDM? 7 metres x 5 metres housing testing equipment in an educational facility owned and used by a 3rd party. They would be the client and we would be principal contractor.

Any advice gratefully received.

Ian Bell2  
#2 Posted : 01 February 2018 09:28:54(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

You have posted your question in the wrong forum area.

I assume you mean you are having the described room built/constructed?

While you haven't given too much information - yes CDM will apply. CDM and the definition of 'construction' is very broad.

You will also need a Principal Designer appointing by the client. Give me a call if you want any help with that.

From the information, your project doesn't sound like it will be modifiable to the HSE.
stuart46  
#3 Posted : 01 February 2018 10:00:31(UTC)
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stuart46

Ah, yes. My mistake (obviously). Thanks Ian. We might actually be building it for someone else via 3rd party supplier if that makes any difference.

Ian Bell2  
#4 Posted : 01 February 2018 10:22:51(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Ok. Nevertheless, whoever is the Client under CDM is obliged to appoint both a Principal Designer and Principal Contractor.

Previously auto correct error 'notifiable' to the HSE.

Possibly interested in the PD bit.
peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 01 February 2018 12:58:18(UTC)
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peter gotch

Unlikely to be notifiable and if only one contractor required then would not need a Principal Designer and Principal Contractor, though similar documentation needed to comply with other legislative requirements. Suggest download L153 from HSE website.

To a large extent this is all going to hand around whether you have all the trades in house to do the full installation including services.

stuart46  
#6 Posted : 01 February 2018 13:13:39(UTC)
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stuart46

One contractor working on our behalf in 3rd party building.

Ian Bell2  
#7 Posted : 01 February 2018 13:41:22(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Very true about the PD/single contractor issue. In my experience very few projects are truly single contractor, only very small glorified in house maintenance jobs that I have seen.

Even a small job like this sounds like it will need
Electrical
IT fitment of cables etc as it's a training room
Floor/carpet fitters
Glass fitters/someone to erect the walls.

If all in house, ok.
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