Personally speaking, I'm not a Doctor nor Epidemiologist.  So Covid-19 is a Biological agent, it has spread unchecked worldwide within 3 months, nowhere is 'safe'.  The observations that it is fairly stable (as in it is not mutating that fast) is still unclear, as allegedly the original strain has not been isolated or the Chinese State have not told us the truth! 

Saying that, it has mutated a little, as it has been reported that there may be 5 or 7 strains of the virus, which have allowed different levels of sickness and the virus has survived.

Now wearing a mask is pretty pointless for the average member of the public, because it is more than likely that everyone has already been infected.  If you are coughing and sneezing, it could be allergies or a cold or something else, maybe even a normal flu, it is not likely to be covid19 as the reported symptoms are different.

Common sense appears to have been completely side stepped and ignored, if the virus is everywhere in all places, wearing a mask will not make you or anyone else any safer, the virus is already in you and everybody else and probably on most surfaces and clothing, a bit like all those other bacteria that live on our world.  So if you are likely to sneeze or cough, use a tissue or the crook of your arm.  Wash your hands and face often.  Wash your clothing.  This is thought why Japan has such few deaths, cleanliness, hand washing.   

PPE only becomes mandatory when the loading of cases increases, such as places that do the tests, service patients in hospital, transport suspected cases, transport the dead, as the numbers of virus carriers increases, making the disease much more active, this is why medics, nurses and doctors are more likely to get it, if they do not have full PPE.  

It is still not confirmed as to why some people get it, some people get a milder infection and some people die.  Could it be linked to our own version of DNA - are we more susceptible to it or is it the loading of the virus, which is why clusters of cases is such a concern.  So a care home has already sick and vulnerable people in it, this virus seems to affect them more or so it seems.  This virus appears to be similar to TB (tuberculosis) it attacks the lungs, same symptoms, lots of phlegm and a labored sense of breathing.  

It has not been confirmed yet whether like TB, sputum (saliva) can contain the virus, the swabbing of the mouth and nose for testing, swabs the skin, but nothing has been said about the saliva.  There has been talk about coughing and sneezing, but the product of that is what – saliva?

So my next observation is why has the UK not done any disinfection of the country?

...with the added QQ of 

1. How soon would a sanitised nation soon become recontaminated?

2. What impact would this have on all the other species on the planet (including all the bacteria etc that we rely on for good health)?

Originally Posted by: A Kurdziel

What we need to do is the avoidance of browsing, where people go into shop to look things, pick up um and then buy something they don’t really want. About half of the clothes bought in shops are only worn once or never worn at all.  People should know what they want, go in and buy it. Then get out.  This will mean the end of retail therapy which is a good thing and I will never again have to be asked “Does my bum look big in this”

As to DIY not being available; I can live with that!  

 

Adding to the Trump folly files, he is encouraging citizens to wear masks, but he won't be wearing one, because he doesn't want to. So much for leading by example. He has also had a second test, 'just for curiosity' - isn't he the lucky one? At a time when they have carried out a pathetically small number of tests, this is surely adding insult to injury.

Quite worrying about Boris Johnson being in intensive care. Not a great fan of his, I have to say, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

Well, the Easter weekend approaching, and fine weather forecast. I'm dreading it, as a proportion of the population just don't seem to be listening to advice and instructions. Some people are still sunbathing in the parks and having barbecues on the beaches. What is wrong with these people? My eldest and her husband are both nurses, and still working, and I take it as an insult to them that there are still people around behaving like d***heads. Not only are they putting the rest of the population at risk, but specifically the police who have to try and control them.

Shut and lock the parks and bring in the army. It really is time to get tough with these idiots. If they carry on, we'll all end up completely confined to home for weeks, not to mention sacrificing the progress we've made so far on controlling the spread of the virus.

If the professionals are demanding "adequate" PPE then Joe Public will obviously want something, psychologically they need something, so in the absence of adequate supply......

Whilst it is wrong to fratenise at this time the suggestion of shutting public spaces, invoking a total lock down, moving to a "police" state is IMHO an INSULT to the memory of all those who had long since given their lives for our current freedoms from tyrany and oppression.

Just for once lets have societal law serving society and the selfish (by high example the Scottish Health Advisor) getting their personal come uppance without any recourse to "personal" rights being an immediate guinea pig for any vaccine testing or sent to work as a porter on the wards WITHOUT PPE? Maybe that barbeuce will finally seem less inviting. The line form Gilbert & Sullivan's Mikado is quite apt "Let the punishment fit the crime" so break isolation and society will remove you from isolation.

BTW eventually we will have to be outside intermingling with each other, we will still be catching and transmitting Covid. we will still be seeing loved ones die. The only difference is that hopefully (after all that is the UK governments stated tactic to "delay" the spread) there will be enough equipment and specialist staff to serve eveyone who subsequently gets taken to hospital.

Two interesting perspectives from Roundtuit and Kim. I don't see restrictions on public gatherings, and parks and beaches are obvious places for this to apply, as an insult to those who fought for our freedom. Rather, such restrictions should be viewed as our own contribution to the fight for freedom, from death. It is worth remembering that there were significant restrictions on personal freedom during the second world war, when we were indeed fighting for freedom but required to make some personal sacrifices in the fight.

I wouldn't advocate a total lockdown that prevented people taking exercise outside, and in my experience recently people are observing good social distancing during this, but I fear that the actions of a minority of idiots might make that necessary.

Putting front line workers at risk, and indeed assaulting them as has happened recently, should be dealt with in the harshest way possible - such people don't deserve to be at liberty in a civilised society. Convert one of the empty conference centres into a mass jail, and herd them all in there - they are obviously not bothered about catching COVID, so there you go guys (I would suggest a remote Scottish island, but I don't see why we should inflict them on it). I do think we need to get the army involved - the police just don't have the resources thanks to successive cuts by our government.

Latest episode in the Trump folly files is an executive order giving them unfettered access to mining rights on the moon and other places in space, not to mention rolling back environmental protection in the USA. The arrogance and stupidity of the leadership knows no bounds.