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Posted By steve e ashton
There seem to have been several breaches of the 'acceptable use' guidelines recently where recrutiment agencies and H&S consultancies use this (free) forum to advertise for commercial purposes.
Clearly there is a perception that this is a good place to advertise - but equally clearly IOSH don't want to offer free advertising for commercial concerns.
Is there any chance that IOSH could offer a 'sponsored links' section on this page - with links to the main agencies and consultancies who want to make use of the iosh connection? This could generate some income for IOSH whilst leaving the chat and careers fora free for members to communicate.
I wouldn't mind seeing (small) ads in the corner of the screen, but would object if the ads were of the intrusive undeletable 'pop-up' variety.
? just a thought. ?
Steve
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Posted By Martin R. Bessant
Steve,
A team of Moderators look at the website forums at least daily, and do attempt to remove all postings which breach the IOSH Acceptable Use Guidelines. We do contact the "offending" person by direct e-mail and advise them that they can place a paid advert in the SHP magazine. Regretably, the odd posting does get missed but we are very vigilant.
We do not have any current method of providing a links section within the forum, but are reviewing the whole area of the Career's Forum at present.
Regards,
Martin Bessant - Lead Moderator, Website Forums.
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Posted By Tom Clark
I agree Steve - I have seen a certain 'companies' advert for personnel all over the country on here. They sell 'off the shelf' paperwork and advice on a scale which could flood the market. Give the rest of us a chance. I like the odd real opportunity that comes up now and again. Even to produce bespoke H&S work.
Tom
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
There are several job adverts in the forum at the moment which surely breach the acceptable use guidelines.
Paul
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Posted By Jim-F
what about all of these Xact consultancy jobs advertised, by William Lawler.
they are obviously expanding but dont want to pay for it.
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Posted By Tom Clark
They're the ones Jim quick fix paperwork with a back-up helpline take cash and away.
The customer just wants a bit of paper with no time to really take on board what it's all about. A 'certain' style of H&S?????????
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Posted By Roger the Dodger
I would be very suspicious of the numerous William Lawlor/Maurice Hammond postings over the past few weeks.
For a consultancy to suddenly want so many consultants implies either they have taken over another consultancy, suddenly got lots of sales (which I doubt) or if you get a job with them you will be more of a sales consultant (and expected to produce the sales i.e. get fired if you don't!) who maybe does a little h&s work on the side.
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Posted By Tom Clark
I believe they are in with dentists and pharmacies in the main. I met a certain person a while ago from a certain company - OK - I was young and needing the cash at the time.
It wasn't going to be worth it though and they didn't want me anyway. (Boo Hoo) They may have known I would'nt do it for long.
Tom
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Posted By Jim-F
Cant these postings be removed?, if that is what they are, then we dont want to encourage it.
What MIOSH practitioner worth his salt would entertain this practice anyway
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Posted By Jez Corfield
Hang on a second - There might just be the opportunity here for someone to get a job, which has to be a good thing for IOSH members, I cant see how/why a consultancy should be treated with such derision - why is it a bad thing for consultancy to have a vacancy, and want to fill it on this forum without first resorting to expensive advertising.
I might not be seeing the full picture here. If it was a local SME wanting a safety officer, are we to think any different? Is this just because its a consultancy?
Jez
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Posted By Jim-F
sorry Tom said that before I read your posting, bet your worth your salt
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Posted By Jez Corfield
The acceptable use guidelines state:
"Users must not use the forums for any commercial purpose (including the advertising of jobs, goods and services)"
Does this means agencies that profit directly from the process of recruitment, or that no organisations whatsoever should post any vacancies in this forum?
Jez
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Posted By Chris Black
I don't believe these ads (for that is what they are) should be allowed on this site and considering the claim of regular moderator involvement, I'm surprised thay are still on here since they clearly breach the guidelines for use.
There are certain key phrases in the ads that lead me to think that they are more of a franchise than a job opportunity, some people could well get their fingers burn't if they don't tread carefully with certain "opportunities" ( I know, few people tread anywhere using their fingers)
Also, despite all of the negative postings, I find it interesting that there has been no response from the people who placed the ads.
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Posted By Peter Hamilton
I think Steve raised a sensible question that the moderators should and indeed did address in their reply. Perhaps some respondents in this stream should themselves review the first guideline??
Unfortunately as safety professionals we know only too well that Murphys fourth law of opportunity says that "if someone can, sooner or later someone will"!!
No doubt a number of hands have been smacked, lets hope the fora can continue to grow and get better, I for one find them invaluable in helping to keep me sane.
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