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#1 Posted : 29 January 2009 11:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Skinner I have just seen on another forum the following quote "There is a new code of practice in work which effectively bans people from eating at their desk" has anyone got any knowledge of this, and if so is there a link to the code? Thanks Steve
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#2 Posted : 29 January 2009 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Skinner Ah ha.... it came from the Department of work and pensions as an internal doc, where it did not work either. Thanks anyway Steve
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#3 Posted : 29 January 2009 13:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Philosophically - does anyone work in the DWP? Sorry about that but as it is the home department of the HSE one would have anticipated something more useful. Bob
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#4 Posted : 29 January 2009 14:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillipe Any ideas as to what the severity of lunch eating at your desk injuries are likely to be? Honestly, what a lot of tosh
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#5 Posted : 29 January 2009 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By water67. And who is gonna monitor it: the sandwich police, the desk top cops, the tea CIA????
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#6 Posted : 29 January 2009 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell .... wiping away the crumbs... wasn't me guv!
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#7 Posted : 29 January 2009 15:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Carr Does that mean we'll all be getting nice little rest rooms?
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#8 Posted : 29 January 2009 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan Curran Jack Baguette and his colleagues from BLT.
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#9 Posted : 29 January 2009 15:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Bob, DWP They may not do much work but they can all look forward to very nice pensions. Merv
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#10 Posted : 29 January 2009 15:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sen Sar My daughter works for the above mentioned and by what she says it makes yours and mine look like a a piece of cake (crumbs included eaten at desk). Altough it does make sense to me that people get away from the work space/desk/station/place to eat & drink, just sounds like a reciepe for disaster!
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#11 Posted : 29 January 2009 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R What its about is getting people away from workstations at breaktimes. Too many people sit at their computer all day, if you have your break and lunch at your desk whilst using the internet etc then you don't get a break from looking at your monitor and you sit in the same position for 8 hours which can cause muscularskeletal disorders. Movement is the key and thats why these policies exist.
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#12 Posted : 29 January 2009 16:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell So...if in doubt create a blanket ban makes sense? example... attend meetings in meeting room most of morning... have more planned in the afternoon. Catch up with emails during lunch brake... Oops... must keep food away from desk... answer skip lunch and suffer diet related illness! Do you think the world is going bonkers?
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#13 Posted : 29 January 2009 16:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R Nope, The policy is aimed at people who sit at a desk all day. These policies have been around in call centres etc for years. A lunch break is a break, as in a break from work often in most peoples contracts, unpaid. If you have to catch up with emails on your lunch break then you have a workload issue, a different kettle of fish entirely!
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#14 Posted : 29 January 2009 16:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell From my recollection of working in a call centre.... when it was time for breaks... I never knew of 1 person not eager to get away from their desk. Could this extend now to involve IT to flag up emails sent from home laptops & blackberry's after 5pm? there's always room to encourage but to enforce such items would be a nightmare... costly (I will look out for this in the next DWP budget!) and so very PC IMHO
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#15 Posted : 29 January 2009 19:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By bill reilly Interesting view you have of the modern civil service. I work in one of the parts of the DWP.I hot desk and am in favour of this ban on eating at desks as it means I do not have to wade my way through some one's lunch detritus. Merv:I am a big admirer of your wit and wisdom but senior civil servants with 40 years service who retire on £35k and a lump sum of £ 105,000 are in the minority.Vast majority in DWP are in lowly paid admin grades
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#16 Posted : 30 January 2009 08:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel try hot desking when those before you have left parts of their lunch [& worse] all over the worktop - We suffer from 'presenteeism' and one way to manage it is to get people away from desks as there is no need to eat at a desk its just a bad habit
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#17 Posted : 30 January 2009 08:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell I wonder who will write to Dear Sir Terry Wogan? I mean... Eating breakfast whilst broadcasting (working) to celebrate 'farmhouse breakfast week' ... appalling! .... Chuckling at the response expected!
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#18 Posted : 30 January 2009 08:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Jones I recall some 6 years or so ago, there was something published (on this forum? - a search did not throw it up) indicating that a toilet seat has less germs and bacterial contamination than a desk where it's occupier regularly consumes food. There is also a problem with crumbs dropping into the keyboard and really getting up the I.T's guys noses when they have to swap out sticky/duff k/b's!
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#19 Posted : 30 January 2009 08:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Petrie In an attempt to get my staff to get up amd leave their desks on a regular basis and do a bit of excercise I am encouraging everyone at work to take up smoking!
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#20 Posted : 30 January 2009 11:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By PMW LOL - if a person has 2 smoking breaks a day, average 10 mins each(conservative). Over a year this equates to 4 weeks extra leave. 27 smokers employed in our small company, 108 weeks of work that the non-smokers have to cover.
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#21 Posted : 30 January 2009 12:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Wood (unsheaths his pedantic sword) 20 mins a day x 5 days a week x 52 weeks (allowing for NO holidays of any kind) = just over two weeks break (assuming a 40hr week). hey, I'd take the extra two weeks tho! :-)
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#22 Posted : 30 January 2009 13:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By NSO Point to note, try following your cleaners to make sure they use different cloths for different things. I did and found our eastern european cleaner using the same cloth in the toilets as she did for desks. Mmmm nice. There is now a fully colour coded cloth and bucket system in place. Just as a little exercise try turning your keyboards over and tapping them gently to see what falls out. Now do you really want to eat at your desks?
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#23 Posted : 30 January 2009 14:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch PMW. In your conservative 10 minutes, I have just gone down the stairs, had a cigarette, chat with one of our training department, lift back up to 6th floor, put cold water in kettle, waited for it to boil, filled other kettle and made mug of coffee. It has also given break from rewriting complex report - the psychologists say that you cannot concentrate on a topic for more than 45 minutes, so that 10 minutes has been by no means wasted - rather it will improve my productivity for the next 45 minutes. Regards, Peter
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#24 Posted : 21 March 2009 17:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Bastow I'd rather Peter spent the 10 minutes on a different productive task to refresh his concentration - filing or watering the office plants or making everyone a cup of coffee instead of nipping out for a ciggie. When we moved a few Novembers ago to new premises with a large car park and yard area we made it all a no smoking zone. A year previously we had introduced a policy of not allowing paid smoking breaks as it discriminates against non smoking staff (record the time and make it up if you take a smoking break). Of 48 staff 22 were smokers - the walk in the cold to outside the perimeter and the introduction of stop smoking support paid off - now we only have 4 smokers - die hard addicts who can probably all find misplaced justifications for their deluded believe in the benefits of their habit (I can concentrate better, I'm bad tempered without etc) We have healthier, happier more productive workforce now. Although the policy was not popular with smokers when first introduced, 80% of them have subsequently made a point of thanking me for enforcing it, as it helped them give up.
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#25 Posted : 22 March 2009 18:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brett Day Most of the offices I've worked at haven't had somewhere you could sit down and eat lucnh away from my desk, so not sure how it could be enforced without refurbishment of offices to incorporate a mess room.
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#26 Posted : 23 March 2009 15:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Longworth Why have a mess room when you can make a mess at your desk?
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#27 Posted : 23 March 2009 17:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By clairel If this really were true I'd be quitting health and safety for good.
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