Posted By Bob Youel

Human's first [i.e. don't put humans at unnecessary risk!] other areas [environmental etc]second! That's the way it is and has to be

An example is Fire [human safety].V. Security [property safety] where the security bods have to comply with fire law

Relook at your systems to see if less water can be wasted

Posted By Rodger Alan Ker
Allegedly wasting water is a bit of a red herring.

Water that goes down any drain, ultimately is recycled and reused.

(I was once told that we are drinking the same water that the dinosaurs drank (probably accounts for the taste!)).

Agree with the others entirely, humans first, environment a very poor second priority.

Posted By Gerry Colverson
Mike

We have the same dilemma, we are a large local authority and have flushing regimes etc. We do not have flushing regimes in every building as many buildings have no equipment that will produce aerosol. For these we note them on our property database and focus on the higher risk ones. These we identify by risk assessment process and we can further prioritise places like older person residential properties and special schools as having people with additional vulnerability. These types of building are often on test regimes as well.

By risk assessment we are able to minimise the amount of flushing needed, but if there is a risk of legionella, there is no option.

regards

Gerry

Posted By Warsteiner
Not wanting to throw stones in the general direction of our lovely local authorities and their inflexible knee jerk reactions and rules, etc, etc. But, is this one of those requirements to run all taps and flush every toilet, including those that are used "day in day out", regardless of thought and consideration to the likelihood of actual risk?

If yes.

1. Get the tree huggers on side (qualified tree hugger meself), and re-assess the requirement. I.e if it is used every weekday-don't bother, leave well alone. Just make sure your audit trail is in place.

2. Remove dead ends where there may actually be a risk or purge them once a month (fire hoses for example).

Water maybe recycleable. What costs is the purification process and electricity used to pump the water to your taps.

Regards Wobbly

Posted By Mike the bike
OK one and all. Thanks very much for your responses. Somewhere along the line it seems the thread lost its way and wandered onto flushing water systems; this was meant to be about sampling from sentinal taps for temperature. However, all your responses are very useful.

Now I am a member of the forum I'll try to reciprocate and put in my 10p worth where I can.

Cheers all, Mike.

Posted By Mike the bike
Unfortunately we are a county council and don't have our own EHOs. There are several district and borough councils in the county who do, but our buildings are on all of their various 'manors' and it is likely that I would get varying views from them.

It's a useful thought though, and thanks very much for it. Cheers, Mike.

Posted By Phil Rose
TCV above should have been TMV

Phil

Posted By Ninapalmer
Hi there Mike,

I certainly have a very positive way of resolving this issue, my company have now released on to the market a Remote Monitoring System to be used for the purpose of monitoring and therefore controlling the bacteria associated with ACOP L8.

Much more scientific and certainly cost effective than the manual system we all have to use currently - which is a pain if you are also dealing with domestic multi-residence properties - we all know the joys of trying to get access!!

Feel free to give me a call on 01992 589444 or email me nina@city-water.com - I am already working with Welwyn and Hatfield Council - we are just completing the equipment installation of the first batch - a very exciting time for all.

Thanks

Nina