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#1 Posted : 19 March 2009 17:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Penfold Can someone put me on the right track to look into work experience for 14-15 year olds. They are coming in for a week in a large office spending some time with the teams seeing how an office works. What should we have in place? We do have procedures in place for employing young persons, but this is the first time we are looking at work experience. Is there anyone who already provides work experience? Thanks if anyone can advise
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#2 Posted : 19 March 2009 17:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By HoneyB Not so experienced in this but I do know that you are required to carry out specific risk assessment for young persons (under 18) and if under 16, a copy of the risk assessment should be given to their parents (maybe school in this regard). I also know there must be high level of supervision. Hope this is a bit helpful.
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#3 Posted : 19 March 2009 17:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally http://www.hse.gov.uk/youngpeople/workexperience/ everything you every needed to know! The info on here is good and comprehensive. From experience the biggest potential issue in an office is that they are so eager to make an impression and do well that they can be reluctant to admit they don't understand something or to ask for help.
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#4 Posted : 19 March 2009 17:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Blanchard I have had work experience placements on construction sites. This is obviously much higher risk than an office environment. All hazards to which they were likely to be exposed dependant upon the trade, e.g. bricklaying, were included in a special RA. The appropriate control measures included 100% supervision, not necessarily with a site supervisor but a "supervising worker". I also did separate inductions for them, including signing up to the RA and the assigned supervisory worker counter-signed. The parent or guardian of each Work Experience participant was also required to sign a consent form. Perhaps something similar and simpler for an office environment covering VDU, manual handling, dealing with aggressive customers and use of equipment would be the answer.
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#5 Posted : 19 March 2009 17:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By stephen d clarke Hi, Just to add to the above R0SPA also have info for employers re. work experience youngsters at: http://www.youngworker.co.uk/ Steve
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#6 Posted : 19 March 2009 19:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 Penfold, this is a good link for info on WEX. Even has some example RA to review. http://www.cornwall.gov....index.cfm?articleid=2112 If you employ young people then you are 90% there if you have specific RA for them. In an office environment,it is unlikely that you would need any additional controls beyond making sure that an adult is "watching over" them at all times. If this is the first time you have offered an opportunity you will get a visit from the schools placement service in your area and they will be able to help you.
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#7 Posted : 20 March 2009 07:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel the people responsible for placing them with you should have all the law etc info to hand - contact them
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#8 Posted : 20 March 2009 08:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Penfold Thanks for all the responses. the links were a real help. I'll have a better read when I get a bit more time in the office. These are going to have full supervision in a controlled environment and not dealing directly with customers. I know they will be completely safe, but just wanted to make sure we have the paperwork in order. I will contact the school and find out their procedures. Thanks again
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#9 Posted : 20 March 2009 08:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell We have dealings with this too.. The school or colledge should enquire as to what systems you have in place. I also think that they should inform the local authority too (unless this is only for long term work?)
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#10 Posted : 20 March 2009 08:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Richards You may also [in limited circumstances] like to consider this: http://www.diploma-suppo.../CRB%20Clarification.doc
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#11 Posted : 20 March 2009 09:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 Further to my link to the Cornish site and just to clarify for all. Work experience placements in year 10 and 11 are part of the curriculum. Although schools have a responsibility to satisfy themselves that it is safe for the child to attend many use a placement service such as the local Education Business Partnership to carry out an overall assessment of the suitability with the experience provider. This covers whether the provider has adequate H&S systems in place generally and then looks specifically for a risk assessment for WEX. You can find more details on the "safelearner" website. Most will help the provider if they do not have an assessment. Children who attend on WEX are doing so under the WEX Regs and not local bye-laws. Therefore, no need to inform anyone else and the working hours are in line with the WTD for young people NOT the limited hours in most local bye laws. Hope this helps to clarify how easy it is to manage this important opportunity for youngsters to experience that real world" that we all hold up as such an important part of life.
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#12 Posted : 20 March 2009 22:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By GaryC40 All previous comments valid. Just remember work experience is not work observation!
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#13 Posted : 24 March 2009 16:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By water67. Hi. LA here, our education department has it's own vetting/monitoring in place overseen by one of their H&S officers. I am surprised the LA in question is allowing YP into your workplace without checking the suitability and other areas such as employers liability, H&S policies etc. get back to them and ascertain what they require..as has been said there are specific requirements re risk assessments for YP. Cheers
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#14 Posted : 24 March 2009 16:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By ScotsAM Bear in mind that an obvious hazard to those working there may not be noticed by the young person due to lack of work place experience. Be sure to talk and walk them around all the hazards raised in your risk assessment. Think about buddying them up to help them to work safe and understand what they're doing. You might find they're shy or don't quite understand what they're doing which could cause some anxiety. Be patient, friendly and helpful.
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#15 Posted : 24 March 2009 19:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Penfold Wow, loads more responses. I have found out this company has done this previously and am sure they have every thing in place. This is the first time I have come across this and wanted to know through you guys what I need to ask. I am in the process of obtaining the relevant documentation from the company and the school. From the info and links you have given, I can make sure all is in hand. Thanks again. This forum is a gold mine!!
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