Posted By edmund barker We have 2 fire exits -1 double door and 1 single door.They are only approximately 5 feet apart can we make the single door an ordinary exit door? The double door allows for maximum escape and is in good working order and serviced regularly. If it can be changed, apart from the fire risk assesssment is there any other authority that requires notification?

Posted By marcusblack Hi, Any material changes to a fire exit will require building control approval. Cheers, Mark

Posted By Messy Shaw Toe - If both the doors are next to each other (separated by 5') it is very unlikely one would be an alternative for the other. Also, you mention that the final exit door will need a self closer and smoke seal. Most final exit doors need either. Self closers might be needed if the final exit door discharges close to, or under an externals escape staircase to protect occupants using those stairs. I don't wish to be rude here, as I know that everyone who posts here does so freely and with the intent of helping others, but I really do believe if you are not 94.5% sure of the advice you are giving, perhaps you shouldn't give it at all.

Posted By martinw FFs what of the situation where you have double doors side by side meeting together in the middle, forming seperation from a lobby, to a corridor containing the front doors of flats: the smoke brushes are on the door frame and none are on the doors themselves. The doors have no intumescent strips. Where the doors meet in the middle - where the static push handles are, not the hinge sides etc - there are no strips or brushes between the two timber surfaces of the two doors. Therefore there is no barrier to smoke. I must be having a brainstorm, but I am embarrassed to say that I cannot find the justification to tut at this. I know the British Standards which are relevant but this is so specific that I cannot find the right wording for the justification to shoot it down. Any ideas? I know the normal 'every door should be fitted with brushes....' standard quote but I cannot find the specific reference. In the same set of flats I found two fire doors side by side as above, forming side by side barriers, meeting in the middle at the end of a corridor. One has an integral intumescent strip, the other door forming the fire barrier had a smoke brush. I know that this sounds bizarre but the same situation is as above - this is clearly wrong to me(looks as if the builder ran out of right and left hanging fire doors which matched) but I cannot pin down the exact justification for recommending change. I appreciate that if this is a stupid question which is obvious to you guys, you may smirk, but I am happy to ask when I do not know. Can you help? thanks and sorry for hijacking but this is on a similar tack... Martin

Posted By martinw Two doors, side by side, forming one end of the corridor. Would be easier if I could copy and paste pics but not to be.

Posted By martinw Ok thanks will do later as out all day

Posted By Messy Shaw Point taken and apologies offered

Posted By Toe Martinw, It may be that the doors met with the relevant building regulations at the time the building was constructed. As the regulations change throughout the years it may be the case that these doors may not meet today's building standards, which does not necessarily mean that is is wrong. However a comprehensive fire risk assessment should identify that the building may be able to be changed/modified to meet some of today's current building standards, again not a legal requirement to ensure that all buildings (except new builds) meet current standards but this would be good practice AFARP. Messy, Apologies accepted