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Posted By SJF
Quick question, I've searched for an answer but couldn't come up with one....
If a first aider fails to attend a re-certification course prior to the expiry of their qualification, does that automatically mean they have to sit the full course again, or is there a time window to get them on a refresher before this is necessary?
Cheers
Stephen
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Posted By Kevin Drum
They must do the refresher training within 28 days from the valid to date on certificate. I had this problem last month where the last day of training was 1 day over the 28 and provider would not re-qualify, I also phoned HSE who agreed with provider. I asked HSE if there was any give over the one day and was told no. Luckily I found another provider outwith area who could retrain within 28 days so the first aiders in question did not have to start from scratch and do full 4 day. And yes I know this changes to 3 from Oct 09
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Kevin
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Posted By Bill Elliott
Stephen - there is a 28 day window - miss this and you owuld have to start again.
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Posted By SJF
Excellent, cheers for the speedy response guys. Buys me some time!
Stephen
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Posted By Swis
So a person has three days’ worth of more (pre-existing) knowledge on the 28th day after his initial certificate expires than 29th day ??????
Why don’t they just introduce some sort of test to evaluate whether a person needs a refresher or a full course?
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Posted By NSO
Why don’t they just introduce some sort of test to evaluate whether a person needs a refresher or a full course? Simply because things change and first aiders need to be kept abreast of those changes, just like us.
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Posted By Swis
"Simply because things change and first aiders need to be kept abreast of those changes, just like us."
I'm sorry I didn't get this.. Can you please eloborate a little.
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Posted By Kevin Drum
Swiss I wasn't agreeing or comending the 29th day rule because as an employer this had the potential of taking up another 6 days mantime to retrain the 3 people concerned from scratch. I was meerly pointing out for the benefit of the original poster that there was no negotiation over 28 days as I asked and was refuses. Yes it seems ridiculous to assume all knowledge goes on 29th day but that the way it is
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Posted By Phil Rose
The date is arbitrary, in just the same way as most other 'renewal' dates are arbitrary, MOT, LOLER cert, LEV etc etc etc. As such there is no real logic to any of the time frames is there? A car doesn't suddenly become unsafe the day after it's MOT runs out, lets be honest it may be unsafe the day after it has it's MOT. It's just an arbitrary date and that is the rules, whether they make much sense at times or not.
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