Posted By Kerry Edwards What would your advice be regarding an employee who has sustained an accident (minor) but does not want to put it in the accident reporting system please (point blank refusing!)? Thanks

Posted By Kerry Edwards They are fully aware of the procedures and the HSE's Accident form to sign with their manager, but some are still not wanting to report 'cuts and grazes' It is the old cultural issue I have come in to and they are 'part of the job' - obviously I want to change this attitude. I will look at their contracts as well, thanks.

Posted By Kerry Edwards Good advice which I will use, great. Unfortunately they have first aid boxes and packs in all sorts of places at the moment. They are estates/maintenance staff so catching them will be a challenge I am enthused to take on!

Posted By Kerry Edwards Phil, thank you. I think I have been so used to a previous system where 95% accidents, near misses, etc, were reported and acted on, that coming to the total opposite is a bit of a change for me. Deciding on what is reasonable as an accident to expect them to report (as well as RIDDOR), and implementing some awareness training in the meantime for improvements?!

Posted By Larry You don't have to be the injured party to fill in the accident book. If they wont do it, then you do it. If they (the IP) have an attitude problem with that, then make them HR's problem. Let your HR department deal with staff discipline. Also, make sure that you/HR then record all actions etc and file those records with the accident record. The requirement to RECORD all accidents (in workplaces within the UK) comes under a Social Security Act, not the HSWA 1974. The requirement to REPORT CERTAIN accidents (and other things) comes under H/S legislation (RIDDOR). The two issues are slightly different.

Posted By GaryC40 I agree with Ray - Is there a problem with the safety culture that discourages accidents / incidents to be reported? May be worthwhile having a few informal chats with personnel on this. Also, why not request senior management to decide on a formal set criteria / policy for reporting and make sure all staff are aware of it. Sometimes situations like this (no matter how minor) highlight improvement opportunities. Gary

Posted By Kerry Edwards I will look into all the HR detail and inductions as to the message given. This company has never had a safety officer until I came on the scene. I certainly do not want to bog them down with paperwork. As you suggested earlier, someone else can log the accident and state "IP refused to sign and give further details". As long as there is a record then the company can measure it's performance. Good ideas given for me to take on board, so thanks all!

I've had this happen twice in 3 years. The first site manager was sacked for failing to report the accident to senior management. The most recent the site manager will be given a verbal warning. The implications for not reporting accident to management RIDDOR or otherwise could later come back to haunt you years down the line. Imagine getting a letter out of the blue from a no win no fee claiming injury at work with medical notes etc only for you to answer we are unaware of the accident. It shows a complete managment failure at your end not know whats going on where. Hope this helps feel free to email me with you number if you want to chat things over