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spud  
#1 Posted : 22 December 2009 15:49:13(UTC)
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spud

We are currently going through the process of having all our Legionella assessments completed for the sites we manage and it has been noted that although they are good they do not seem to be signed off!!! I was under the illusion that all assessments should be signed off, with this in mind could anyone inform me if this is correct please as in an actual written signature by the assessor.

Alan
jwk  
#2 Posted : 22 December 2009 16:07:42(UTC)
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jwk

I think it would depend on your policy. Legally, it doesn't make a great deal of difference whether they are signed or not, what matters is that they get used in managing Legionella risks arising from your water supply. All a signnature proves is that somebody appended a signature to the document.

We get our H&S Policy signed every two years, because that's what RoSPA QSA asks for and that's the standard we use in running our SMS. But it doesn't really matter. The bit that matters is whether the statements in the Policy reflect reality in any way, and I'd trade that for a signature any day,

John
spud  
#3 Posted : 22 December 2009 16:30:49(UTC)
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spud

Yes John i understand regarding the policy etc, and just to clear this up further we are an FMS company working on behalf of the client, we then obviously contract a company to carry out the assessments, lets say 200 of them so obviously they ate then uploaded or sent via DVD but these do not have a signature of the person who completed the assessment and yes everything else is filled in correctly including schemes and regimes and advice etc.

I suppose i am used to completing an assessment and signing it so surmised all assessments should be signed to stand up in court. But you seem to imtimate otherwise.
jwk  
#4 Posted : 22 December 2009 17:16:30(UTC)
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jwk

Hi Spud,

A signature is evidence either of the identity of the person who assessed the risk, or of the person accepting the findings, or both, and that's all it is. There are many other forms of evidence which would stand up in court; remember that if it comes to a prosecution or litigation every piece of evidence will be thoroughly scrutinised and may well be challenged anyway. There is a bit of a fetish about signatures, especially among insurers, and they are an easy and quick check, but they're not the be-all and end-all, and their lack doesn't invalidate your assessments,

John
ahoskins  
#5 Posted : 23 December 2009 11:30:53(UTC)
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ahoskins

Whilst not necessarily being signed, the least I would expect is to have the name of the assessor included in the document.

If something went wrong and the matter did end up in court, it could be essential to prove the competence of the assessor.

A
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