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dbrookf1  
#1 Posted : 05 February 2010 11:07:33(UTC)
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dbrookf1

Hi, am being made redundant end of this month. A previous employer has asked if I would like to go back to them to help them out for a while on a contractor basis.

Firstly, haven't got a clue how to go about this? Do I go self-employed (how?) Secondly, what are the going rates (I am CMIOSH).

Others on this forum must have gone through this, so would appreciate any help you can give me!

Thanks
Dee
Safety Smurf  
#2 Posted : 05 February 2010 11:21:57(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Hi Dee,
I'm sure don't want anymore outgoings at the moment but I'd start by looking at proffesional indemnity insurance. This is just one of the costs that will dictate the rate you charge. Have you tried speaking to your bank? They should be able to advise you on what you need to do when setting up a new business.
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 05 February 2010 11:38:20(UTC)
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firesafety101

Find an accountant and take guidance from him/her. Then find another accountant and do the same. Do this three times and decide who to use, that should get you started and give you ideas on how much income tax you will pay, what charges you will have on your car, office/home, etc. Also how much the accountant will charge to do your books.

You will have many days at first when you do not work but don't lose heart, keep on keeping on and the work will come.

The previous employer you have is excellent to get started, while working for them you can be looking for more work, I find if you are good at what you do word gets around and work will come in that way (word of mouth and recommendations).

Don't try to run too fast early days, and don't be too expensive early days.

Good luck.
bob youel  
#4 Posted : 05 February 2010 16:50:30(UTC)
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bob youel

the tax man himself can be very helpful and a good route to go initially is the 'sole trader' route and if you do it properly you may not need to pay an accountant in the first instance - all you need to know re your tax and insutance payments etc is available on the web

Many years ago one of my accountants said that I could not claim for a number of items; I did the claims myself and the tax man cleared them without any bother. However another accountant has saved me an amount of money so its swings and roundabouts

Best of luck & keeep us posted noting that as you have always been PAYE and are probably looking for another PAYE job ask your potential client if he can pay cash - it saves a lot of bother; is perfectly legal and the tax man/ NI man will not bother as long as you are streight with them
firesafety101  
#5 Posted : 05 February 2010 17:20:16(UTC)
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firesafety101

I was in a similar position to db and was advised re the accountant. I used an accountant for the first year's trading, saw what/how it was done and my wife has done my books ever since. I think it's useful to see exactly what's required.

Good point about the tax man, there are some very helpful people at HM Revenue, only too willing to help.

imwaldra  
#6 Posted : 05 February 2010 17:26:06(UTC)
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imwaldra

The IOSH 'Consultancy - good practice guide' should help you to think of all the main issues. Downloadable from 'Information & resources.
JohnW  
#7 Posted : 06 February 2010 09:29:38(UTC)
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JohnW

Dee,

I was made redundant years ago and got my own business started a year later without the need for an accountant.

All the advice you need is free.

Firstly get advice on starting a business at the Tax Advice website

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/index.htm

Then get onto BusinessLink which a national FREE service on business start up. There will be free seminars in your area, check out,

http://www.businesslink....layer?topicId=1073858805

Now (February) is a good time to get your business started so that you have everything in place by 5th April, and you start that new tax year solely as a self-employed person. You can start earning and keep good records of expenses, travel etc as you get tax relief on all that (basically you get 20% back as tax relief).

The hard bit is getting business but maybe you've already got something in the pipeline. You can start charging hourly rates like £30 or daily rates £200 but as you are CMIOSH maybe more, and you can negotiate a long term contract.

My first 2 years self-employed 2007-2009 were very good but since the recession started I've relied mainly on a my one (yes just one!) long term contract which employs me 2 or three 3 days a week, I'm fortunate that I can survive 'part-time' :o)

John W

firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 06 February 2010 21:49:27(UTC)
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firesafety101

John W, you don't need an accountant eh? Your tax year does not have to start in April, it can start any time you start the business. i.e. February if the business starts in Feb.

An accountant might have told you that?

Revenue and Customs will not tell you everything, sometimes it's better to use an accountant at least once to get the inside advice.

Victor Meldrew  
#9 Posted : 07 February 2010 12:40:20(UTC)
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Echo Chris previus statement - get a GOOD accountant - the valuable guidance and information provided to me, especially in the early years has been incalcuable....best advice I was ever given
JohnW  
#10 Posted : 08 February 2010 08:54:53(UTC)
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JohnW

ChrisBurns wrote:
John W, you don't need an accountant eh? Your tax year does not have to start in April, it can start any time you start the business. i.e. February if the business starts in Feb.

An accountant might have told you that?


Eh yes, I didn't SAY HAD TO start business in April, the tax site and BusinessLink explain all that, I'm just looking for an easy start for Dee and suggesting start EARNING from April.

I registered my business Nov 2006 and started earning April 2007 and that was, for me, an uncomplicated start-up, without an accountant.

ChrisBurns wrote:

Revenue and Customs will not tell you everything, sometimes it's better to use an accountant at least once to get the inside advice.




I accept there may be some detail that an accountant could help with. Those early months I had expenses like computer, training, etc but no business earnings and I got tax relief. I'm just offering Dee a way to get started without too many complications. I had good redundancy to cushion my start-up time, Dee may not.

(The 2006 redundancy money was personal earnings of course so another reason I waited till the April to start earning).


JohnW
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