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SKerr  
#1 Posted : 08 June 2019 21:08:22(UTC)
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SKerr

Are companies legally required to provide MSDS for equipment? We have purchased a paint mixing machine and in order to carry out a risk assessment I need to know potential risks? Thanks
SNS  
#2 Posted : 08 June 2019 21:31:20(UTC)
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SNS

Short answer to the first part - an MSDS is for chemicals or substances!

"A Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) is a document that contains information on the potential health effects of exposure to chemicals, or other potentially dangerous substances, and on safe working procedures when handling chemical products."  (from Google)

On the machine itself it may depend on the purchase contract, off the shelf or supported. You should at least have an instruction booklet. Did it just appear or who was involved in ordering it?

Second part, your company needs to carry out the assessment to discover the hazards. Guidance is available from the hse - http://www.hse.gov.uk/work-equipment-machinery/puwer.htm 

There are contractors who can do this with you, google may help you find someone.

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SKerr on 09/06/2019(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 08 June 2019 22:13:30(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Seriously? It was the CHiP regulations that made reference to a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) these were WITHDRAWN in 2015.

Since the publication of the REACH Regulations EC 1907/2006 (some 13 years ago) which brought the UN Globally Harmonised System (GHS) to europe such documents are titled Safety Data Sheet (SDS)

Article 31 of REACH states a supplier must provide a Safety Data Sheet for substances or mixtures they place on the market which are classified as hazardous to human health or to the environment.

There is NO obligation to provide an SDS (or COSHH sheet as the great unwashed call them) for every product traded and by example the radio I am listening to, the car I drive, the computer I am working on, the chair I am sitting in were not shipped with an SDS.

You could argue that in the case of the car - brake/transmission fluid, engine oil, diesel fuel, screen wash, air-conditioning gasses - one or more may be classified as hazardous, after 13 years you would have expected at least one motor manufacturer to have been prosecuted for breaching Article 31 if they had to provide SDS for their vehicle - Google seems quiet in response to this question.

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 08 June 2019 22:13:30(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Seriously? It was the CHiP regulations that made reference to a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) these were WITHDRAWN in 2015.

Since the publication of the REACH Regulations EC 1907/2006 (some 13 years ago) which brought the UN Globally Harmonised System (GHS) to europe such documents are titled Safety Data Sheet (SDS)

Article 31 of REACH states a supplier must provide a Safety Data Sheet for substances or mixtures they place on the market which are classified as hazardous to human health or to the environment.

There is NO obligation to provide an SDS (or COSHH sheet as the great unwashed call them) for every product traded and by example the radio I am listening to, the car I drive, the computer I am working on, the chair I am sitting in were not shipped with an SDS.

You could argue that in the case of the car - brake/transmission fluid, engine oil, diesel fuel, screen wash, air-conditioning gasses - one or more may be classified as hazardous, after 13 years you would have expected at least one motor manufacturer to have been prosecuted for breaching Article 31 if they had to provide SDS for their vehicle - Google seems quiet in response to this question.

SKerr  
#5 Posted : 09 June 2019 16:06:29(UTC)
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SKerr

Many thanks. My main concern is that I don’t know the hazards involved in the use of this machine as this has just been purchased. I want to have my homework done before this arrives and control Measures put in place. I thought that legally companies were required to supply information such as where this machine can be used, does it need to be in a well ventilated area, PPE to be worn etc when using?
Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 09 June 2019 18:54:05(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Why are you buying a paint mixer - to blend colours in a retail shop or prepare paints for industrial/professional application e.g. spray booth?

The SDS you need to assess IF the equipment requires LEV or suitable adequate ventilation will be based on what you are purchasing - water based emulsions for domestic colour match or two-pack isocyanates.

The material (paint) supplier not the equipment manufacturer would provide these.

If you are using this for industrial mixing then the materials to be processed should have formed part of your purchasing criteria e.g. if they are heavily solvented is a "commercial" colour blender the correct piece of equipment or did you actually require ATEX?

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Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 09 June 2019 18:54:05(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Why are you buying a paint mixer - to blend colours in a retail shop or prepare paints for industrial/professional application e.g. spray booth?

The SDS you need to assess IF the equipment requires LEV or suitable adequate ventilation will be based on what you are purchasing - water based emulsions for domestic colour match or two-pack isocyanates.

The material (paint) supplier not the equipment manufacturer would provide these.

If you are using this for industrial mixing then the materials to be processed should have formed part of your purchasing criteria e.g. if they are heavily solvented is a "commercial" colour blender the correct piece of equipment or did you actually require ATEX?

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SKerr on 13/06/2019(UTC), SKerr on 13/06/2019(UTC)
jodieclark1510  
#8 Posted : 10 June 2019 06:51:50(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Originally Posted by: SKerr Go to Quoted Post
Many thanks. My main concern is that I don’t know the hazards involved in the use of this machine as this has just been purchased. I want to have my homework done before this arrives and control Measures put in place. I thought that legally companies were required to supply information such as where this machine can be used, does it need to be in a well ventilated area, PPE to be worn etc when using?

It would be beneficial to obtain a copy of the operations manual for the machine, allowing you to assess the equipment itself/ use of. The MSDS are based on the substances you will be mixing in the machine, cleaning/ maintenance substances. MSDS can often be found online through suppliers or can be requested directly from the manufacturer, the operations manual from the manufacturer of the machine. Ideally some of the risk assessment process should have taken place prior to purchase- there's no point buying equipment and then suddenly realising its not fit for the purpose you require, additional works haven't been taken into consideration i.e requirements for LEV, or that the hazards can't be suitably managed.

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SKerr on 13/06/2019(UTC)
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