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Tracey M  
#1 Posted : 24 July 2019 15:38:51(UTC)
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Tracey M

Some members of staff have questioned whether or not my company should provide free sanitary products as they say it is a basic human right.  The company provides sanitary disposal bins, which complies with The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992, The Water Industries Act 1991 and The Environmental Protection Act 1990.  There are vending machines for the products in some, but not all of the offices with female occupants.

Is there a legislative requirement to provide tampons/ sanitary towels for free?

George_Young  
#2 Posted : 24 July 2019 15:49:58(UTC)
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George_Young

I've never come across a legalisation that states that.

Many things are basic human rights, does not mean a business has to provide them, I'm guessing people are just trying to get free stuff or jump on the bandwagon, as I read last year (i think) that there was a scheme in Scotland where free products were issued

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RayRapp on 24/07/2019(UTC)
HSSnail  
#3 Posted : 25 July 2019 06:53:11(UTC)
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HSSnail

I know there are schemes in schools, but agree with George - dont see it as a requirement for buisness to provide them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47553449

CptBeaky  
#4 Posted : 25 July 2019 08:06:43(UTC)
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CptBeaky

It is not a human right. Remember sanitary products are taxed as a luxury(!). Obviously I am only looking at this from a legal stand point. I am sure if I were female I wouldn't consider them a luxury.

grim72  
#5 Posted : 25 July 2019 08:16:27(UTC)
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grim72

No obligations from a company's viewpoint - however it could be considered a good PR exercise if they did decide to provide them? There is an obligation for the company to provide adequate welfare facilities which sounds like you've got covered already (suitable bins - regularly emptied etc).

stevedm  
#6 Posted : 25 July 2019 08:20:09(UTC)
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stevedm

I think we all agree there is no legal requirement to provide...however some companies with largely female staff have started placing these in thier washroom facilities as part of support for the period poverty campaigns.  Rolls Royce as an example.

As a business the cost of buying bulk works out at about 25p a pad (we do it as part of remote medical support) so it isn't great cost...however there is still a bit of a stigma attached to it becuase of the embarrasment especially in more traditional industries ( I have recently been asked to put down bowl problems rather than severe period pains!), however I would support and any business that removes that sort of mental pressure on any gender...

Just some thoughts :)

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Natasha.Graham on 25/07/2019(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 25 July 2019 08:32:13(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Lots of things are Basic Human Rights: food, shelter, medical care and family life but there is no law that places a duty on individuals especially employers to provide these items. This is for society as whole to sort out through our governmental institutions.

Natasha.Graham  
#8 Posted : 25 July 2019 08:51:45(UTC)
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Natasha.Graham

Agree with everyone that there is no legal requirement.

As stevedm said a large number of businesses now are moving towards provision of such things, and what a way to promote the organisation as a good employer? Many women don't know the exact day when that will happen to them and there's nothing worse than being at work and not having any sanitary products.  It would provide peace of mind, if you buy in bulk a relatively cheap intitiative and would in my humble opinion, raise the morale of the workforce (not just the female workforce either!). 

A Kurdziel it may well be something for society to sort out through government institutions but we are currently in a very uncertain political and economic climate.  As businesses are part of society I would encourage and support any business who implements any initiative to tackle societal issues as it would fall under health and wellbeing, which again is the "health" in health and safety! 

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Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 25 July 2019 11:53:15(UTC)
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Roundtuit

It may be "nice to" but it is not a legal requirement.

If we want to as a society stop pollution, eliminate single use plastics, protect the oceans....... is providing the modern (plastic and gel filled sandwich) sanitary towel or non-biodegradable tampon with their plastic applicator a concurrent course of action to avoid swimming with some interesting items in the mediterranean (other water bodies are available)?

Before anyone starts citing UK legislation intended (and failing) to prevent such items entering the environment the question was about basic human (not UK) rights.

Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 25 July 2019 11:53:15(UTC)
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Roundtuit

It may be "nice to" but it is not a legal requirement.

If we want to as a society stop pollution, eliminate single use plastics, protect the oceans....... is providing the modern (plastic and gel filled sandwich) sanitary towel or non-biodegradable tampon with their plastic applicator a concurrent course of action to avoid swimming with some interesting items in the mediterranean (other water bodies are available)?

Before anyone starts citing UK legislation intended (and failing) to prevent such items entering the environment the question was about basic human (not UK) rights.

CptBeaky  
#11 Posted : 25 July 2019 12:14:30(UTC)
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CptBeaky

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

It may be "nice to" but it is not a legal requirement.

If we want to as a society stop pollution, eliminate single use plastics, protect the oceans....... is providing the modern (plastic and gel filled sandwich) sanitary towel or non-biodegradable tampon with their plastic applicator a concurrent course of action to avoid swimming with some interesting items in the mediterranean (other water bodies are available)?

Before anyone starts citing UK legislation intended (and failing) to prevent such items entering the environment the question was about basic human (not UK) rights.

You can get biodegradable ones, or towels made from bamboo fibres if that is what is troubling you. We switched from plastic stirrers to wooden ones for example. 

Hsquared14  
#12 Posted : 25 July 2019 12:35:22(UTC)
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Hsquared14

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

It may be "nice to" but it is not a legal requirement.

If we want to as a society stop pollution, eliminate single use plastics, protect the oceans....... is providing the modern (plastic and gel filled sandwich) sanitary towel or non-biodegradable tampon with their plastic applicator a concurrent course of action to avoid swimming with some interesting items in the mediterranean (other water bodies are available)?

Before anyone starts citing UK legislation intended (and failing) to prevent such items entering the environment the question was about basic human (not UK) rights.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say here.  Are you suggesting that employers shouldn't hold an "emergency stock" of sanitary requisites because it isn't environmentally friendly?  I agree there is no legal requirement but surely common humanity and common decency would suggest that a good employer would and should hold at least a small emergency stock to assist anyone who is "caught out" in the workplace.  I wouldn't advocate wholesale provision as most women have a favourite product but surely a small stock could be held and made available at time of need?

Bigmac1  
#13 Posted : 25 July 2019 13:53:47(UTC)
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Bigmac1

I think we need to start providing decent welfare facilities or in some place even provide welfare facilities, which by the way is LAW before we think about sanitary wear surely. 

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webstar on 26/07/2019(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#14 Posted : 25 July 2019 15:10:02(UTC)
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Roundtuit

People used to take responsibility for themselves - now it is everyone elses (societies) fault The environment comment was an attempt to highlight that whilst our first world society can gather to a cause they also want the solution to have no direct impact upon themselves.
Roundtuit  
#15 Posted : 25 July 2019 15:10:02(UTC)
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Roundtuit

People used to take responsibility for themselves - now it is everyone elses (societies) fault The environment comment was an attempt to highlight that whilst our first world society can gather to a cause they also want the solution to have no direct impact upon themselves.
O'Donnell54548  
#16 Posted : 25 July 2019 20:23:43(UTC)
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O'Donnell54548

Originally Posted by: Natasha.Graham Go to Quoted Post
Agree with everyone that there is no legal requirement.As stevedm said a large number of businesses now are moving towards provision of such things, and what a way to promote the organisation as a good employer? Many women don't know the exact day when that will happen to them and there's nothing worse than being at work and not having any sanitary products. It would provide peace of mind, if you buy in bulk a relatively cheap intitiative and would in my humble opinion, raise the morale of the workforce (not just the female workforce either!).A Kurdziel it may well be something for society to sort out through government institutions but we are currently in a very uncertain political and economic climate. As businesses are part of society I would encourage and support any business who implements any initiative to tackle societal issues as it would fall under health and wellbeing, which again is the "health" in health and safety!
As a man I do not believe for a moment that I have any knowledge about periods, but if I had a condition such as required a sanitary product and did not know when I may need one I think I would make sure that I took spares with me to work.
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stevedm  
#17 Posted : 26 July 2019 08:10:14(UTC)
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stevedm

Tracey I think your question has been answered...so it may be wise to not heed any of the less compassionate replies...like I say there is still a sitigma and bias attached to this especially where men are asked to make a decision like this...if it feels like the right thing to do then generally it is the right thing to do...there is always those that are willing to share the good and bad points of implementation just find a company near you that has done it and pop over and ask how they did it...I'm sure they will be happy to help.

CptBeaky  
#18 Posted : 26 July 2019 08:30:39(UTC)
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CptBeaky

Basically you dont have to supply them, but that doesn't mean you can't/shouldn't supply them. There is no reason not to supply them beyond cost.

jwk  
#19 Posted : 26 July 2019 08:37:47(UTC)
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jwk

Since the question of period poverty has been raised lets just note that if people are being properly paid then they shouldn't be in period poverty. However; minimal cost, great morale booster, might help in recruitment and retention, helps people feel cared for at work, no reason not to provide,

John

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