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HI all Probably a silly question but would an ex paramedic who is still registered be required to do a FAW qualification. We have new joiner who is a ex paradmedic and would like to be a first aider Many thanks Mike
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How long has he been out of the Game?
Reasons I ask is, I’m a first aider and every refresher someone changes, while the principal is similar.
I would train him then your covered
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mmm...if he is a curent registered Paramedic he will have to use all of his advanced skills to save a life regardless of being a nominated first aider...and he will know that hence my scepticism, I could be wrong...
Apart from his clinical neglegence insurance and scope of clinical practice update there should be no problem... However, I would check him out on the HCPC website, you can check any registration there just by surname. If that checks out then all good...if not then he needs a FAW.
To maintain registration/ use of a protected title you have to have the appropriate training, be still working as a paramedic and up to date on CPD...if not you cannot use the title. I think the HSE recognition of Paramedics for all FAW related activities was from around 2008...
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And registered paramedics with the HPC can teach FAW (with an appropriate teaching qualification), so I would take this as another indicator that HSE view this as at minimum comensurate with FAW!
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Thanks Everyone
she is still registered as a Paramedic. The FAW guidence says the HSE reconise this in lieu of FAW always good to get other thoughts as we know nothing is straight forward
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MikeCarr
this may sound like a silly question. Your email employee is a paramedic, will you be insuring her as such ? Or as a first aider ?
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Originally Posted by: mikecarr  Thanks Everyone
she is still registered as a Paramedic. The FAW guidence says the HSE reconise this in lieu of FAW always good to get other thoughts as we know nothing is straight forward
She?
I love the subconsciously sexist assumptions made by some posters. :-)
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Originally Posted by: watcher Originally Posted by: mikecarr Thanks Everyone
she is still registered as a Paramedic. The FAW guidence says the HSE reconise this in lieu of FAW always good to get other thoughts as we know nothing is straight forward
She?
I love the subconsciously sexist assumptions made by some posters. :-)
I love people reading the thread where the OP says: " Thanks Everyone she is still registered as a Paramedic."
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Originally Posted by: samf Originally Posted by: watcher Originally Posted by: mikecarr Thanks Everyone
she is still registered as a Paramedic. The FAW guidence says the HSE reconise this in lieu of FAW always good to get other thoughts as we know nothing is straight forward
She?
I love the subconsciously sexist assumptions made by some posters. :-)
I love people reading the thread where the OP says: " Thanks Everyone she is still registered as a Paramedic."
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Sorry, misread your post!
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Originally Posted by: stevedm if he is a curent registered Paramedic he will have to use all of his advanced skills to save a life regardless of being a nominated first aider.
Ironically enough we started as "he" and changed when we was informed this was a lady
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Originally Posted by: CptBeaky Originally Posted by: stevedm if he is a curent registered Paramedic he will have to use all of his advanced skills to save a life regardless of being a nominated first aider.
Ironically enough we started as "he" and changed when we was informed this was a lady
Well, yes, that was rather my point.
The first two responses appeared to assume that a paramedic/joiner would be a "he".
Subconcious/unconcious sexism.
Not as bad as when people assume I'm my team's admin, if I answer the phone :-)
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It wasn't intentional, however you will know that when referring to legislation it is always in the male context...pity that was the only takeawayfrom that comment...
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Originally Posted by: watcher Originally Posted by: CptBeaky Originally Posted by: stevedm if he is a curent registered Paramedic he will have to use all of his advanced skills to save a life regardless of being a nominated first aider.
Ironically enough we started as "he" and changed when we was informed this was a lady
Well, yes, that was rather my point.
The first two responses appeared to assume that a paramedic/joiner would be a "he".
Subconcious/unconcious sexism.
Not as bad as when people assume I'm my team's admin, if I answer the phone :-)
Yes, that's what I realised when I re-read the post... :/ sorry for jumping on you unnecessarily! I work in what has stereotypically been a male dominated industry, and female colleagues of mine have had customers ring up, assume they are a receptionist and then not believed them when they've insisted they are part of the sales team (this was even worse for the female Sales Manager at the time).
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Originally Posted by: stevedm It wasn't intentional, however you will know that when referring to legislation it is always in the male context...pity that was the only takeawayfrom that comment...
Well, it wasn't the only takeaway from that comment, I don't see the need to repeat what others have said already.
I make no apology, however, for calling out casual sexism on a professional forum. I am surprised at the defensiveness.
Were it me, you would have got a "mea culpa", not a "well, but..."
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Not to side track the topic. But what casual sexism? The people answering were just putting themselves in that role and answering from their own perspective. When it was pointed out this was a lady, there were no complaints, we seamlessly transitioned to "she". At no point did we question whether the fact that this was a lady was releveant, because the whole point about equality is that it doesn't matter. The answer to to original question was the same no matter what the gender of the paramedic/joiner was. I agree we should all be more inclined to use "they", "them and "their" as gender neutral pronouns. However, in this case the gender of the person wasn't in anyway relevant to the topic and to make it so is far more damging to the strive for equality than a mistaken prounoun.
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Originally Posted by: CptBeaky Not to side track the topic. But what casual sexism? The people answering were just putting themselves in that role and answering from their own perspective. When it was pointed out this was a lady, there were no complaints, we seamlessly transitioned to "she". At no point did we question whether the fact that this was a lady was releveant, because the whole point about equality is that it doesn't matter. The answer to to original question was the same no matter what the gender of the paramedic/joiner was.
I agree we should all be more inclined to use "they", "them and "their" as gender neutral pronouns. However, in this case the gender of the person wasn't in anyway relevant to the topic and to make it so is far more damging to the strive for equality than a mistaken prounoun.
BIB above, of course they were! The gender is indeed irrelevant. The assumption that it was a he is relevant though. That's the issue with casual sexism, it just drops in, and there are always those who don't see the issue. Very professional
And you really think pulling people up on assumptions - or sorry, their own perspectives- is damaging to equality? It seems as a profession, we have long, long way to go.
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I had a long comment to post after that, but I think it is just one of those "agree to disagree" moments. I think there are far bigger fights to be had, but then I am not the person feeling oppressed. Maybe I just know too many strong and powerful women, so I don't see the issue with the slip of a pronoun.
For the record I am a active member of the LGBTQ+ community in my town, so I know a lot about prounouns ;)
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