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Bigmac1  
#1 Posted : 05 August 2019 09:34:19(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Kier construction have issued a SHEA alert around a scaffolder being fined £172 by the HSE for not being clipped on during a scaffold erection.

Kier and the scaffold company did not get any retribution.

I have phoned Kier who and the contact there was aware of the SHEA but not the detail and I am awaiting further response.

Is any connections aware of this, or anyone working for Kier, can you find out? I am trying to stop speculation and need the facts.

I have the SHEA if anyone wants to see it before comment.

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 05 August 2019 10:16:15(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Kier construction have issued a SHEA alert around a scaffolder being fined £172 by the HSE for not being clipped on during a scaffold erection.

Kier and the scaffold company did not get any retribution.

I have phoned Kier who and the contact there was aware of the SHEA but not the detail and I am awaiting further response.

Is any connections aware of this, or anyone working for Kier, can you find out? I am trying to stop speculation and need the facts.

I have the SHEA if anyone wants to see it before comment.

Are you sure it's a HSE fine imposed by the courts-it's a bit small (£172)  and it would barely cover any costs to  

the HSE. Was it a 'fine' imposed by the PC or even the client?
Granlund40055  
#3 Posted : 05 August 2019 10:29:33(UTC)
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Surely just a fee for intervention?

1 hour 20 mins to send a letter at £129/hour (before 6th April), invoice sent out May or July

I have heard others call the FFI a fine.

A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 05 August 2019 11:25:56(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Originally Posted by: Granlund40055 Go to Quoted Post

Surely just a fee for intervention?

1 hour 20 mins to send a letter at £129/hour (before 6th April), invoice sent out May or July

I have heard others call the FFI a fine.

If they are self employed then I suppose they

HSE  could be issued them the bill under FFI but the original post give the impression  that this was a personal fine.
Bigmac1  
#5 Posted : 07 August 2019 12:14:13(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Originally Posted by: A Kurdziel Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Granlund40055 Go to Quoted Post

Surely just a fee for intervention?

1 hour 20 mins to send a letter at £129/hour (before 6th April), invoice sent out May or July

I have heard others call the FFI a fine.

If they are self employed then I suppose they

HSE  could be issued them the bill under FFI but the original post give the impression  that this was a personal fine.

No, not self employed or the duty holder so no FFI can apply plus self employed are exempt if they are only putting themselves at risk.

I am happy to email the SHEA if you wanna see it.

Kier are not forthcoming with any information at the moment.

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