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Monopoly  
#1 Posted : 13 September 2019 14:48:34(UTC)
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Monopoly

BS9999:2008 recommends for fire doors with cold smoke control that the threshold gap should be either less than 3mm in height or should be fitted with a threshold seal.

I work in a relatively new office buiding that has internal fire doors (with cold smoke seals), and the gaps under the doors range from 5mm to 10mm. 

Im aware that BS are not a legal requirement but if the fire service were to make a visit would they insist upon remedial to reduce the gaps. 

The fire risk in the office is relatively low, fire detection in place, travel distances are short...

Thanks in advance

chris42  
#2 Posted : 13 September 2019 15:26:36(UTC)
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chris42

Are you sure that is what it states, I have asked this in the past as I thought the BS required 2 to 4mm on sides and top (so set to 3), and I’m sure I was told  10mm at bottom was ok, to actually allow the air / smoke under ( there is no seal at the bottom)

Chris

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 13 September 2019 15:29:20(UTC)
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Roundtuit

BS 9999:2017 does not seem to specify a gap just reference to the principles of BS 8214:2016

I would task the question back to the designer

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Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 13 September 2019 15:29:20(UTC)
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Roundtuit

BS 9999:2017 does not seem to specify a gap just reference to the principles of BS 8214:2016

I would task the question back to the designer

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Connor35037  
#5 Posted : 13 September 2019 15:33:05(UTC)
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Connor35037

For general fire doors (eg FD30) it's generally accepted that a threshold gap of up to 8mm is acceptable, but I would contact the door manufacturer to to see what their recommended threshold gap is for that particular design of door.

chris42  
#6 Posted : 13 September 2019 15:41:33(UTC)
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chris42

Sorry that should have been 8mm, However it seems things have changed and you can get either FD30s or FD30 where it sems the S is if you need cold smoke seal. I was under the impression that the gap under the door allowed fresh air to flow under, feeding the fire and would keep the smoke back, so no seal needed. It seems that this is something that can now be specified as required. In this case yes should be 3mm if required.

I don't know what circumstances would or would not make it a requirement.

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