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emmet  
#1 Posted : 17 September 2019 09:55:14(UTC)
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emmet

Morning

We are currently looking at different options for 'hazard reporting'. Tradionally we have used a 'hazard reporting form', but following recent discussion with Production staff, they have asked if there are any 'hazard reporting apps' available, were they can report the hazard along with photograph.

Has anyone heard of any such app?

DHeptinstall  
#2 Posted : 17 September 2019 11:42:23(UTC)
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DHeptinstall

You can use something like iAuditor (or similar) and create your own form with the option to attach photographs to it.

The form can then be emailed to a particular address or stored on the portal and downloaded daily/weekly etc.

A Kurdziel  
#3 Posted : 17 September 2019 12:45:19(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

What do you want the app to do? Are you just recording the hazards or will they be classified (mechanical, chemical, physical etc) and the severity assessed. Will this lead to a risk assessment of some sort?

 

Edited by user 17 September 2019 15:49:46(UTC)  | Reason: to many words which are unnecessary

emmet  
#4 Posted : 17 September 2019 13:32:10(UTC)
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emmet

Originally Posted by: A Kurdziel Go to Quoted Post

What do you want the app to do? Do you want it to do? Are you just recording the hazards or will they be classified (mechanical, chemical, physical etc) and the severity assessed. Will this lead to a risk assessment of some sort?

 

Hi, simply want them to capture the hazard. On the app, it will give them few options

1. Location

2. Type of hazard

3. Description

4. Immediate action

etc....Probaly something we can taylor to fit. Risk Assessment will be done seperately.

nosdohr  
#5 Posted : 17 September 2019 15:26:08(UTC)
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nosdohr

I am slowly learning that you can develope a bespoke reporting app via Microsoft PowerApps as long as you have Office 365. I am very new to this (only been looking into it for about a week) but you can apparently assign actions, offer drop downs etc. its a very intersting option and all included within 365.

Steve e ashton  
#6 Posted : 17 September 2019 17:00:11(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

My mind is well and truly boggled. Is this forum seriously discussing a proposal which woul require all personnel to have a mobile phone immediately to hand preloaded with yet another time wasting "app"? In an environment where it is explicitly acknowledged there are going to be some "hazards".??? Maybe I need to give my head a wobble but my immediate response is simple. No mobile phone use on site except by supervisors in a serious or urgent dilemma. Most staff (and contractors) should have their phones turned off whilst at work to avoid distraction and preferably in a personal effects locker to avoid temptation. The idea of encouraging use of mobiles at work for the vast majority of occupational groups should surely be anathema! As for 'hazard reporting"... I always told the guys (and our contractor to SOD it. See it (keep your eyes and ears and nose open. Stay alert and aware of your surroundings). Own it (take responsibility, don't leave it for someone else, don't just whinge to your mates or to the foreman). Do something about it! Take personal action to remove or mitigate the problem get help if necessary (get workmates or the foreman/manager/director...) See it through until you're happy. Then come to the weekly staff meets and boast about what you did to keep everyone safe....
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A Kurdziel on 18/09/2019(UTC)
emmet  
#7 Posted : 17 September 2019 19:20:02(UTC)
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emmet

Originally Posted by: Steve e ashton Go to Quoted Post
My mind is well and truly boggled. Is this forum seriously discussing a proposal which woul require all personnel to have a mobile phone immediately to hand preloaded with yet another time wasting "app"? In an environment where it is explicitly acknowledged there are going to be some "hazards".??? Maybe I need to give my head a wobble but my immediate response is simple. No mobile phone use on site except by supervisors in a serious or urgent dilemma. Most staff (and contractors) should have their phones turned off whilst at work to avoid distraction and preferably in a personal effects locker to avoid temptation. The idea of encouraging use of mobiles at work for the vast majority of occupational groups should surely be anathema! As for 'hazard reporting"... I always told the guys (and our contractor to SOD it. See it (keep your eyes and ears and nose open. Stay alert and aware of your surroundings). Own it (take responsibility, don't leave it for someone else, don't just whinge to your mates or to the foreman). Do something about it! Take personal action to remove or mitigate the problem get help if necessary (get workmates or the foreman/manager/director...) See it through until you're happy. Then come to the weekly staff meets and boast about what you did to keep everyone safe....

Perhaps asking more information on how this would work might have prevented your mind being 'well and truly boggled'...Supervisors only permitted to have phones on our site. Once hazard is reported, it would be captured via phone which could be sent to an online system, as we operate 24/7 7days, would be easier to track than paper based...Hope that helps.

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mihai_qa on 18/09/2019(UTC)
mihai_qa  
#8 Posted : 18 September 2019 06:27:24(UTC)
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mihai_qa

Originally Posted by: Steve e ashton Go to Quoted Post
My mind is well and truly boggled. Is this forum seriously discussing a proposal which woul require all personnel to have a mobile phone immediately to hand preloaded with yet another time wasting "app"? - You could consider it "on the spot" or "dynamic" risk assesment. If anything, it would save reduce wasted time having to track down the reporting structure. My current workplace has close to 500 employees. We have whatsapp groups for each facility to handle this very issue. It can be a headache sometimes, but it does get everyone involved and it did stop us from having 2 fires involving faulty diesel pumps (fire supression system). 

In an environment where it is explicitly acknowledged there are going to be some "hazards".??? Maybe I need to give my head a wobble but my immediate response is simple. No mobile phone use on site except by supervisors in a serious or urgent dilemma. - There will always be hazards, this seems like a legitimate way to help identify the ones we/you might have missed. It's not all residual risks, some are unforseeable. Instance: scorpions and hard to identify snakes. I only mention these 2 as they were sent to me by workers. Poisonous bites/stings are not exactly what I would call acceptable levels of risk.

Most staff (and contractors) should have their phones turned off whilst at work to avoid distraction and preferably in a personal effects locker to avoid temptation. The idea of encouraging use of mobiles at work for the vast majority of occupational groups should surely be anathema! - Better yet, have their anckles chained to a post with a 10 m radius to stretch their legs. If we're talking assembly lines, biosecurity, etc sure, there's a reason for it. But please tell me this practice of "avoiding temptation" is not done on contracting works? How on earth is this not a lawsuit waiting to happen? People have personal lives and emergencies. They are also grown-ups, I would imagine.

As for 'hazard reporting"... I always told the guys (and our contractor to SOD it. See it (keep your eyes and ears and nose open. Stay alert and aware of your surroundings). - Because this approach has been so succesful over the years? I'm all for one on one, but it can't be the only option. We're all fallible, we forget, we make mistakes. If an app helps, I can't see why that would be such a horrible thing, correct me if I'm wrong. I thought we have moved past the "I told you to be careful" speech.

Own it (take responsibility, don't leave it for someone else, don't just whinge to your mates or to the foreman). Do something about it! Take personal action to remove or mitigate the problem get help if necessary (get workmates or the foreman/manager/director...) - Seeing how you already have a no phones policy, I'm sure you also have one for communication, including the level of responsibility for each employee. Most might be reluctant to take matters into their own hands. This "man-up" attitude has got to stop. People lose their lives due to excessive pressure and tough love (look at the suicide rates in the UK within the construction sector). How long until we start changing our mindsets? I'm 1.9m and 110 Kg and still, surprisingly, I experience emotions. If I report something to a foreman and he or anyone else calls it whingeing, I might react in the moment or repress it and stop caring. Both options, I think you would agree, are not what we're after.

See it through until you're happy. Then come to the weekly staff meets and boast about what you did to keep everyone safe.... - Oh wow...So not only should they make sure they stay in line, obedient and with their eyes on their work, but, should they dare raise an issue and help improve the practice, they can expect to be scoffed at during a meeting, belittled and humiliated in public. Are you still accepting applications?

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Natasha.Graham on 18/09/2019(UTC)
stevedm  
#9 Posted : 18 September 2019 07:33:48(UTC)
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stevedm

hestitated to respond...however, so answering the Op directly and ignoring the rant...we have a number of apps and devices available from smart phone and ipads/ tablets...we use them for patient report forms and on the plant they are used of access to the plant control system as we have reduced numbers on site nowadays...so we have the ability for staionary and for mobile staff (including Tanker Drivers)...that we developed oursevlves...however there are some good free apps out there that will help you research your options...ABB had a good app which I have used which linked also PDF versions of the EHS standards...called OHS Reporting for Stop & Check...I thought it was a very good attempt and certainly worthy of a look..

Just for others, in Oil and gas and chemical plant operations we have reduced the headcount significantly over the last 10 years and moved to make the Industrial Control Systems accessible using the IOT to help fill that gap which it is doing very well...security is paramount and not the same as normal IT security or architecture..

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mihai_qa on 18/09/2019(UTC)
Natasha.Graham  
#10 Posted : 18 September 2019 07:41:39(UTC)
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Natasha.Graham

I get that there are areas where phones and tablets aren't practical and I also understand that there are still some people in this world resistant to technology and that is fine.

However, we live in an ever advancing technological society where mobile phones, tablets, etc. are the norm and not the exception.  If we want to engage people we need to adapt ways of working. If you have a workforce of under 25s who have never known anything but mobile phones, then the use of a smartphone app is going to engage them, and we should engage with them.

Our organisation has many EHS Advisers who are remote workers and travel a lot - they all get issued smartphones as standard, but are well trained and understand the hazards associated with the use of mobile phones on site.  However, we also know that if you're doing a site walkaround, tour or inspection and something is spotted, the chances are, unless you have a way of noting down what you saw, it will be forgotten about by the end of the tour.  Therefore we have a smartphone app (which feeds into our web based system) for the guys and girls on the ground to report hazards there and then with photos.  It works! And it works well.  

Emmet - my advice is do whatever engages your staff.  Many web-based systems now offer smartphone apps and it's a case of trialling them to see which fits your organisation and its needs best.

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stevedm  
#11 Posted : 18 September 2019 07:58:20(UTC)
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stevedm

Also when we are talking about this I had a look back at my project files...I did this 15 years ago...wow..makes me feel old :(...so maybe not as cutting edge an idea as everyone thinks...

nosdohr  
#12 Posted : 18 September 2019 08:52:39(UTC)
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nosdohr

Steve e ashton

"Is this forum seriously discussing..." – yes. Data capture and action tracking is fast becoming digital and this is routinely encouraged by professionals within the industry, professional publications etc. It is also a multimillion-pound industry, for a reason (see: https://www.softwareadvice.com/ehs/)!

I don’t recall anyone saying that it would “require all personnel to have a mobile phone immediately to hand”, we certainly don’t. However, it does massively help with remote workers, overcomes language difficulties, often allows for image capture and a whole host of other issues.

“No mobile phone use on site except by…” – you assume to know the layout, culture and disciplines of everyone’s ‘sites’? What about a fleet of remote workers, office workers, shop workers or a million other types of “site” workers?

CarlWest  
#13 Posted : 18 September 2019 21:00:30(UTC)
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CarlWest

Have a look at the Gensuite software and application. Great for safety concern reporting on desktop or mobile and used at some very large organisations. Good luck
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