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Mersey  
#1 Posted : 19 September 2019 09:53:32(UTC)
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Mersey

Hi,

I am a month into a new role where I support 4 sites across the country, I've have just finished visiting all of them meeting and greeting , shaking hands etc..

Wham just been asked to put an EHS budget together for each individual site, which is something I have never done before.

Apart from the obvious things I've seen on visiting the sites could people suggest what type of things I should be factoring in?

Training requirements are one that springs to mind and maybe a legal register 

If anyone could suggest what they put in their budgets it would be a great help, I know all sites and workplaces are different, I get a bit confused as Engineering seems to overlap a bit with the EHS budget, for instance steam boiler awareness training (EHS or Engineering) ? Fire doors that are worse for wear ( EHS or Engineering) ? 

Thanks

hilary  
#2 Posted : 19 September 2019 10:50:39(UTC)
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hilary

Mersey

You do not say what environment you are in.  The size of budget will normally be proportional to the level of risk.  If you are an engineering plant or chemical plant you may want to look at:

Engineering checks (LEVs, Lifting Equipment. compressors,breathing air)

PPE (Chemical suits, RPE)

Medical and health care checks

Air Sampling reports, etc

If you are looking at an office environment or light warehouse then the risks are going to be very different and most of the above checks which are expensive will not be required.

A bit more explanation on your working environment would make this easier to answer.

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Mersey on 19/09/2019(UTC)
Mersey  
#3 Posted : 19 September 2019 11:20:59(UTC)
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Mersey

Thanks Hilary,

All the sites are manufacturing sites.

One makes plastics (quite a noisy environment so Industrial hygiene programme), several LEVs, DSEAR assessment required 75 people on site 

Another is a pharma site ( lots of ethanol) quieter packing lines, does have a QC lab with some nasties, DSEAR risks 120 staff

Another is a flavour extraction food manufacturer, steam boilers, stills, cooling towers, RO plant, labs, again uses lots of ethanol etc..

Service on all of them compressors / steam / water / gas / electricity

I get a bit confused over where Engineering budget finishes and EHS starts

I do appreciate your response thanks

Originally Posted by: hilary Go to Quoted Post

Mersey

You do not say what environment you are in.  The size of budget will normally be proportional to the level of risk.  If you are an engineering plant or chemical plant you may want to look at:

Engineering checks (LEVs, Lifting Equipment. compressors,breathing air)

PPE (Chemical suits, RPE)

Medical and health care checks

Air Sampling reports, etc

If you are looking at an office environment or light warehouse then the risks are going to be very different and most of the above checks which are expensive will not be required.

A bit more explanation on your working environment would make this easier to answer.

Ian Bell2  
#4 Posted : 19 September 2019 18:02:07(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

As others have said, I guess you need to site down with your boss and the maintenance engineers, production managers, laboratory managers to decide how each departments/specialist areas will budget for h&s.

Guess it also partly depends on your job function, if you are there just to advise each department and to develop supporting documentation, engage specialist safety consultants/advice etc but leaving other departments to pay for their own PPE, specialist engineers to visit and undertake Statutory Inspection, for example.

Even as the safety manager it is unlikely you are adequately qualified/competent to be a specialist in all areas that you might need to cover in a company e.g. occupational health assessment, air monitoring, DSEAR, machinery safety.

​​​​​​​See personal message

stevedm  
#5 Posted : 20 September 2019 07:00:10(UTC)
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stevedm

I would also look at the results of audits and risk assessments to see if there are any long standing 'improvements' that haven't or need to be made...most of the engineering bits LEV checks etc should come out of the Maint budget...

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